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Old 01-21-07, 02:09 AM   #1
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Cycle Snobbery

let me just say I am not a messenger have done side work but not a pro by far nor am I a usac athlete that out of the way

if I wave at another cyclist ont he street roady messenger or other wave back don't snub me I am a nice guy and I like to build goodwill in the cycling community

usually if I see someone broke down I will help em out

just cuz we're not all athletes or full time messengers don't be a snob
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seriously. i get this a lot in my community as well.
even my fellow fixed gear riders never talk to me.
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OK. I am obviously new to retem's posts. Just so I get it right, it was

"If I wave at another cyclist on the street [whether its a] roady, messenger, or other, wave back don't snub me. I am a nice guy and I like to build goodwill in the cycling community."

If so, yeah. I get snubbed by reckers going 14kph on their $200 MTB. Roadies are fine, they say morning. Its the fat old people who ride their cheap giant bikes slowly, taking up 2 lanes on whatever path forcing us to the road pissing off drivers who tell us to get on the path, that are the problem.
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understandable I hope you read the disclaimer
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understandable I hope you read the disclaimer
yeah. There was more helpful advice in that post than [insert appropriate analogy, dunno, something like the popes last speech???]
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Maybe its the new englander in me, I don't wave at anyone. It doesn't matter what I have in common with a person. I just doesn't happen.
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in downtown cleveland there were about 7 fixed gear riders in total during the day. all but me where messengers. they all waved and had a conversation when they had the time and our bikes were locked up together. in philly, you can't piss on the street without hitting a hipster on a fixed gear... no one waves or says isht.

i think it has to do with being a minority or something. black people in boston will wave, but black people in philly (where there are plenty) wont say isht to you just because your black.

sorry to bring it to race.
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It seems like in PGH the brand spankin' new fixed gear hipsters won't wave, but most other folks are cool.

I think brand spankin' new fixed gear hipsters are probably concentrating too hard on not dying on their brakeless track bikes. Because brakeless, like, totally makes you like, more Zen with the bi...*WHACK! INTO A BUS!**

*Not saying brakeless is always bad, just run a front brake for let's say, a month when you first start riding, then try brakeless.

Thank you. This thread's obligatory brakes vs. no brakes debate has officially begun as per BFSSFG law.
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I will wave or give 'the nod' whenever my brainpan is clear enough to register that another person is in my vicinity. Whether you be a cyclist ped or even a car/truck.

I just assume people are preoccupied if they don't wave back, it's not gonna stop me from saying hi.
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I am a big supporter of carrying tools to help riders with mechanical problems, giving out spare tubes to strangers and talking bikes with whoever will listen, but the wave thing has never bothered me much. Some folks wave and others do not. I am not sure that it is an issue of snobbery all of the time.
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i used to try to be cool and say whats up to other bikers or try and race a stranger just for fun but iv been snubed too often . now its just like because 2 people ride dosent meen we have anything else in common so they can shove it i have my agend and um ohwell maybe its because all i ride are beater conversions or somthing. maybe ill buy a pista and everyone will want to be my friend.
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Maybe it is a population thing but if I were to spend time waving at all the people I see on bikes, I wouldn't be riding. There are a lot of cyclists in Toronto.
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i tend to nod and smile
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let me just say I am not a messenger have done side work but not a pro by far nor am I a usac athlete that out of the way

if I wave at another cyclist ont he street roady messenger or other wave back don't snub me I am a nice guy and I like to build goodwill in the cycling community

usually if I see someone broke down I will help em out

just cuz we're not all athletes or full time messengers don't be a snob
i totally agree with this post

just please use periods and commas, and work on your typing.

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I find that almost every cyclist will smile or wave if you meet them in particularly foul weather. You can make an instant friend with the person across the street because you're both crazy enough to go out in the same blizzard or whatever.
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It's hard not to get excited about seeing other people ride in this gridlocked hellhole. Texas is so "you're nobody if you don't have a car" it's not even funny. Here's to wishing more people would hit up the streets instead of driving to the lake for a couple laps.
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i don't really nod or anything unless i recognize the person... there are plenty of cyclists in boston. but otherwise i don't really go out of my way to acknowledge anyone.
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it's just another mode of transportation, though. would you wave to someone else if you were walking down the street in opposite directions? nah.
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it's just another mode of transportation, though. would you wave to someone else if you were walking down the street in opposite directions? nah.
Yeah, but bicycle culture is just as geeky/obsessive/whatever as the motorcycle culture, who wave to each other - unless they are dicks. I waved to everyone on my sporty bike, even cruiser riders who would ignore me half the time.

I think any group who is using the road for something besides driving feels marginalized in some fashion, so waving to another rider is just saying "hey, we are doing something that not many people are doing anymore, and we are part of a larger culture of transportation, good lookin' out." If there were 95% bicycles and 5% cars, drivers would be waving to each other.
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if you're hurt because a bike messenger didn't wave at you, then you really must have self esteem issues.
nah this was more the pack or two of criterium riders rolling up and down my street yesterday I just think it is a nice thing to waive at other cyclists

and no I am not hurt I am just making a statement about the community and ****** bags like you!

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It seems like in PGH the brand spankin' new fixed gear hipsters won't wave, but most other folks are cool.

I think brand spankin' new fixed gear hipsters are probably concentrating too hard on not dying on their brakeless track bikes. Because brakeless, like, totally makes you like, more Zen with the bi...*WHACK! INTO A BUS!**

*Not saying brakeless is always bad, just run a front brake for let's say, a month when you first start riding, then try brakeless.

Thank you. This thread's obligatory brakes vs. no brakes debate has officially begun as per BFSSFG law.
this is so true it hurts!!!

but I only own one bike with brakes on it and it is my touring bike however; I have been doing this for some time and it is really flat in sacramento I have also geared down so I can skid in the saddle if need be

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I do the 1 second head dip, and (jeac) think of retem's typing as an interesting dialect.
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