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Old 01-21-07, 08:07 AM   #1
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3rensho pursuit

This is on Egay and I thought I would share it's beauty for all to see. Anyone want to buy a kidney?


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Old 01-21-07, 10:22 AM   #2
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is that some one off side project of ebay or.........?
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Old 01-21-07, 11:10 AM   #3
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haha, this bike has seen it's day on the EBAY thread already. thanks.
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craft not art.
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The first, broadest sense of "art" is the one that has stayed closest to the older Latin meaning, which roughly translates to "skill" or "craft", and also from an Indo-European root meaning "arrangement" or "to arrange". In this sense, art is whatever is described as having undergone a deliberate process of arrangement by an agent. A few examples where this meaning proves very broad include artifact, artificial, artifice, artillery, medical arts, and military arts. However, there are many other colloquial uses of the word, all with some relation to its etymology.
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Art is not, as the metaphysicians say, the manifestation of some mysterious idea of beauty or God; it is not, as the aesthetical physiologists say, a game in which man lets off his excess of stored-up energy; it is not the expression of man's emotions by external signs; it is not the production of pleasing objects; and, above all, it is not pleasure; but it is a means of union among men, joining them together in the same feelings, and indispensable for the life and progress toward well-being of individuals and of humanity.
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We are accustomed to understand art to be only what we hear and see in theaters, concerts, and exhibitions, together with buildings, statues, poems, novels. . . . But all this is but the smallest part of the art by which we communicate with each other in life. All human life is filled with works of art of every kind - from cradlesong, jest, mimicry, the ornamentation of houses, dress, and utensils, up to church services, buildings, monuments, and triumphal processions. It is all artistic activity. So that by art, in the limited sense of the word, we do not mean all human activity transmitting feelings, but only that part which we for some reason select from it and to which we attach special importance.
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The young artist... will discover out of ordinary things the meaning of ordinariness. He will not try to make them extraordinary. Only their real meaning will be stated. - Allan Kaprow
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You do realize the argument/discussion you guys are having, correct? I mean fully realize it, in the psychosocioexistentiophilosophical sense?

You don't have anything more productive you can be doing?
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...developments within modernism itself let to art’s dissolution into its life sources. Art in the
West has a long history of secularizing tendencies, going back at least as far as the Hellenistic period... Art shifted away from the specialized object in the gallery to the real urban environment- Alan Kaprow
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You do realize the argument/discussion you guys are having, correct? I mean fully realize it, in the psychosocioexistentiophilosophical sense?

You don't have anything more productive you can be doing?
The soup kitchen's closed, so I'd rather have art related semantic debates online.

So far though it's been others speaking for us, I don't know if it really counts as an argument/disscusion...
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ugh, i just took a class last semester on Modern Japanese 3-D Art. I thought it was finally over and now it's infultrating my personal life.
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i think art history is my favorite subject ever. and now you know.
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This is on Egay and I thought I would share it's beauty for all to see. Anyone want to buy a kidney?
What blood type are you? I'm O+. I already have a transplant right now, but they don't last forever...
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this is an amazing thread. who saw an art-student-b!tch-slap-fest in a lowly thread about a sick 3rensho?
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If everything is art then art is nothing.
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...developments within modernism itself let to artís dissolution into its life sources. Art in the
West has a long history of secularizing tendencies, going back at least as far as the Hellenistic period... Art shifted away from the specialized object in the gallery to the real urban environment- Alan Kaprow
Interesting concept, but it sounds like false logic.
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Egay? Wow, that's clever. And homophobic.

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this is an amazing thread. who saw an art-student-b!tch-slap-fest in a lowly thread about a sick 3rensho?

not I said the fly.
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Egay? Wow, that's clever. And homophobic.
Actually, it was a typo. But be me my guest to quickly assume that I was making a homophobic statement. Surprised I haven't killed myself yet considering i've been living in San Francisco for the last eleven years. Go start a fight elsewhere.
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In My Craft or Sullen Art
by Dylan Thomas

In my craft or sullen art
Exercised in the still night
When only the moon rages
And the lovers lie abed
With all their griefs in their arms,
I labour by singing light
Not for ambition or bread
Or the strut and trade of charms
On the ivory stages
But for the common wages
Of their most secret heart.

Not for the proud man apart
From the raging moon I write
On these spindrift pages
Nor for the towering dead
With their nightingales and psalms
But for the lovers, their arms
Round the griefs of the ages,
Who pay no praise or wages
Nor heed my craft or art.
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Old 01-22-07, 11:01 AM   #22
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Bwahaha, great thread

OED smackdown short version

craft . noun 1a (esp. in combination) a trade or an art (statecraft; handicraft; priestcraft; the craft of pottery). b the product of such skill

art . noun 1a human creative skill or its application b (usu. in pl. or attributive) work exhibiting this.

You're both winners!!!
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i moved about four months ago and haven't had internet access. this is the first bikeforums thread that i've opened since then. i'm glad it's still the same around here.
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i'd posit that we're all losers.
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Isn't that in the dictionary next to "optimism"?
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