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    My Zieleman!

    Sorry, I never post here, but todat I picked up this Original Zieleman type special. Very rare because Ko Zieleman only made a few frames back when he built frames. He is now retired. Chrome is in reasonable condition. The fork is a chromed twin plate design!

    I'm so thrilled!
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    what is that stem?

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    toight like tiger

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    Quote Originally Posted by soyboy
    what is that stem?
    3T Mutant quill stem.

    Like that Zieleman. Any more history? Who was Mr Zieleman etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soyboy
    what is that stem?
    llooks like a short mutant quill type

    cool bike...
    except for the ugly stem !!

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    [QUOTE=fixedpip]3T Mutant quill stem.

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    that's what i thought but for some reason i was thinking they only came in silver, sweet bike by the way

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    Yes it's a short black 3t mutant with black 3t mutant drops.

    Just so you know: I bought it like this. The ad said it was original, but i'd already seen that the stem and drops were modern. I'm not sure if i'm going to ride it ( fork is not drilled for brake and I refuse to ride brakeless on the street) or put it up on ebay.

    it also has a weird combo of a Campy record rear hub and shimano front both 28 hole laced to Mavic reflex clinchers. The crankset is Sugino track or so I think. It is stamped S with a crown above it. Anyone know the brand?

    As for Mr. Zieleman. He was a low volume high quality framebuilder in Amsterdam who built most of his bikes during the sixties and seventees. If you really want to know, as Lotek, he's the Zieleman expert.

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    sugino, possibly a super mighty= floppy campy knockoff
    "The only reasons anyone should ever ride in the rain is because a) you’ve had your license to operate a motor vehicle suspended by the state. b) you’re in a bike race in which case you’re not allowed to use fenders anyway. c) you’re from Portland- in which case my main problem is with your neck beard- not your bicycle...If you need to train when it’s pissing rain- buy a trainer or one of those cheap charter flights to Mallorca."

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    keep it to ride on the track ~!

    or, since you're in netherlands, i think it'd be very appropriate to build a coaster braked rear wheel
    or even a sachs duomatic, which come in 28h and might not b so hard to find where you are

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    switch the fork for a drilled, slap a brake on there and ride it

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    About Ko Zieleman,
    His father (also Ko Zieleman) started building frames in Amsterdam in I'd say the late 30's
    early 1940s. Not sure when Ko (junior) started building.
    Ko has a small shop in Amsterdam (currently being run by his son in law) and built mostly
    custom frames. He is reported to have built bikes for Hennie Kupier and other Dutch champions
    which were rebranded to whatever bike the pro was riding.
    Zieleman was never a widely known dutch brand like RIH, he imported 235 bikes to the US in the 70's and
    early 80's, most going through McLean Bicycles in McLean Va.
    He was a very opinionated builder, didn't think much of lightweight bikes (thought they would
    just break sooner, remember these were built to ride dobbles), or untried geometries.
    Ko was known to mix tubes (columbus and reynolds) based on the needs of the rider,
    it's not uncommon to find columbus fork blades on a reynolds frame.
    Ko Retired as a builder in the mid to late 80's.
    Very nice find, I recently imported a Type Special (mid 70's) road frame which I've
    yet to build up.

    Marty
    Sono più lento di quel che sembra.
    Odio la gente, tutti.

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