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Originally Posted by dutret
Yes and we can also find legions of people who will say track drops are a good ergonomic option for long rides.
A classic drop bar bar places your hand on a curve which focuses pressure on the edges of it. Anatomic drops(or shims) flatten or reverse the curve to spread pressure over the entire hand. The drop part simply is more ergonomic as is top which usually stays more horizontal before the brakes.(no mounting the brakes at a crazy angle that is hard to reach from drops.)
The whole point of a brooks is that it molds to you. That means it is spreading pressure out instead of focusing it on hard regions suited to deal with it. This is the exact opposite of a cutout saddle which seeks to complete remove pressure from sensitive areas and focus it on those better suited to supporting it. since it doesn't mold you may have to try a few different saddles till you find one that fits but the vast majority of riders who want a moderately aggressive position will be better suited by a modern saddle then a brooks.
A classic drop bar bar places your hand on a curve which focuses pressure on the edges of it. Anatomic drops(or shims) flatten or reverse the curve to spread pressure over the entire hand. The drop part simply is more ergonomic as is top which usually stays more horizontal before the brakes.(no mounting the brakes at a crazy angle that is hard to reach from drops.)
The whole point of a brooks is that it molds to you. That means it is spreading pressure out instead of focusing it on hard regions suited to deal with it. This is the exact opposite of a cutout saddle which seeks to complete remove pressure from sensitive areas and focus it on those better suited to supporting it. since it doesn't mold you may have to try a few different saddles till you find one that fits but the vast majority of riders who want a moderately aggressive position will be better suited by a modern saddle then a brooks.
Yes, a Brooks molds to your butt but the sitbones still carry the weight. Amongst the long distance/touring crowd, Brooks reign supreme.
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Originally Posted by dutret
The only legitimate complaint I see is the lack of a flipflop which is even more absurd since bianchi already has a branded flip flop from the pista they could have slapped on possibly even with a cost savings since they wouldn't have to get a completely new hub.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Amongst the long distance/touring crowd, Brooks reign supreme.
1. a lot of the touring crowd are luddites.
2. It fits their aesthetic like track drops fit this groups.
3. If you don't tilt your torso forwards pressure on the on sensitive regions isn't really an issue so pressure distribution elsewhere becomes more important.
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Originally Posted by mcatano
Provided that the chainline is the same for both bikes, you'd still have to deal with the spacing "issue." Admittedly, it's not much of an issue, but it's still there.
very minor. It is possible that the san jose has different spacing to accommodate large tires. Since it comes with a 42t ring it may not though.
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Originally Posted by dutret
very minor. It is possible that the san jose has different spacing to accommodate large tires. Since it comes with a 42t ring it may not though.
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Originally Posted by dutret
The whole BB drop complaint made me lose a lot of respect for them. If anyone curmudgeony luddites should realize that stand over height(within reason) is a meaningless measurement on a road or cross bike. Giving it an extra cm of drop serves no purpose but to make it worse if the owner decided to put a fixed cog on it.
The only legitimate complaint I see is the lack of a flipflop which is even more absurd since bianchi already has a branded flip flop from the pista they could have slapped on possibly even with a cost savings since they wouldn't have to get a completely new hub.
The only legitimate complaint I see is the lack of a flipflop which is even more absurd since bianchi already has a branded flip flop from the pista they could have slapped on possibly even with a cost savings since they wouldn't have to get a completely new hub.
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Originally Posted by mander
Hey that san jose looks good! (note: my conversion looks a heck of a lot like that, down to noodles, esge fenders and gummy scr-5's) The tweed mudflaps may be a bit Rivendell'd out though. I will have to put the SJ on the shortlist if I ever want a fixed tourer. It even has mid fork rack eyelets out front.
I like the whole single gear thing and the quietness of the bike. I hop on and ride it around Research Park during lunch and ride it as a warm-up before going on group rides on the Roadie. (The 42-16 gearing I've got is too low for most group rides with the Roadies.) I can get around most every part of town on this bike and plan to ride it when my wife and I go on country rides as it'll be easier to stay with her than when I ride my roadie and more comfortable and fun than riding my fs-mtb.
I highly recommend the Bianchi San Jose.
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Coelcanth,
Thanks for taking the time to post that.
The Riv version of the SJ look REALLY REALLY good.
To the dude who says Skye Yaeger is ugly, I'm sure you're a regular Adonis.
Thanks for taking the time to post that.
The Riv version of the SJ look REALLY REALLY good.
To the dude who says Skye Yaeger is ugly, I'm sure you're a regular Adonis.
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bbattle: What size tires are those? And could you fit bigger ones?
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Originally Posted by caloso
bbattle: What size tires are those? And could you fit bigger ones?
Oh, the front wheel doesn't have a qr like the 2006 model the Riv got. 15mm lugness.
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I could be mistaken but from what I recall reading, there was a run of San Joses that came with the Pista wheelset. According to the website, it's not standard on the '07 model. I believe that demand for the bike was bigger than expected and they ran out of stock wheelsets; they used extra Pista wheelsets to fill the orders, but are back to the single-sided SS-only wheels. Again, I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by mcatano
I could be mistaken but from what I recall reading, there was a run of San Joses that came with the Pista wheelset. According to the website, it's not standard on the '07 model. I believe that demand for the bike was bigger than expected and they ran out of stock wheelsets; they used extra Pista wheelsets to fill the orders, but are back to the single-sided SS-only wheels. Again, I could be wrong.
For grins, I test rode the Bianchi Milano, a street cafe racer with the nexus 8-speed hub. That hub is VERY nice and gives a good range for those interested in a tourer or climbing/hauling stuff.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
I asked my LBS about that; he said Bianchi is notorious for switching parts without notice, rhyme or reason. Bianchi rep. had told him the 2007's had flip-flops and told me so. I had test ridden a Pista but wanted something more practical and the flip-flop option so he suggested the San Jose.
For grins, I test rode the Bianchi Milano, a street cafe racer with the nexus 8-speed hub. That hub is VERY nice and gives a good range for those interested in a tourer or climbing/hauling stuff.
For grins, I test rode the Bianchi Milano, a street cafe racer with the nexus 8-speed hub. That hub is VERY nice and gives a good range for those interested in a tourer or climbing/hauling stuff.
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Originally Posted by mcatano
I could be mistaken but from what I recall reading, there was a run of San Joses that came with the Pista wheelset. According to the website, it's not standard on the '07 model. I believe that demand for the bike was bigger than expected and they ran out of stock wheelsets; they used extra Pista wheelsets to fill the orders, but are back to the single-sided SS-only wheels. Again, I could be wrong.
I toyed with the idea of a San Jose, but couldn't turn down an awesome deal on a Castro Valley - same frame, but with gears and dynohub goodness...
the only complaint i have is that the fork is the most flexible thing i've ever ridden. I guess it sucks up the bumps well, but the amount of chatter I get when braking hard is really annoying.
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Originally Posted by jacobs
Thats why the made the Bleriot, still not $600 complete, but $750 frame/fork/headset isn't unaffordable.
The Bleriot is made in Taiwan by Maxway. Does anyone know if Maxway has a distributor in the US? The reason I'm asking is that Maxway makes their own lugged frames https://bicycle-frame.bicyclenet.com....rame/96R01.htm which I'm guessing would be similar in quality but cheaper than a branded Rivendell.
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Originally Posted by x37
The Bleriot is an interesting bike, and a good deal in a lugged frame, although if I were to go the 650B route I'd probably get a Kogswell ($540 for frame, fork, headset, and matching fenders).
The Bleriot is made in Taiwan by Maxway. Does anyone know if Maxway has a distributor in the US? The reason I'm asking is that Maxway makes their own lugged frames https://bicycle-frame.bicyclenet.com....rame/96R01.htm which I'm guessing would be similar in quality but cheaper than a branded Rivendell.
The Bleriot is made in Taiwan by Maxway. Does anyone know if Maxway has a distributor in the US? The reason I'm asking is that Maxway makes their own lugged frames https://bicycle-frame.bicyclenet.com....rame/96R01.htm which I'm guessing would be similar in quality but cheaper than a branded Rivendell.
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