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Old 01-23-07, 12:20 PM   #1
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135mm spacing Fixed Gear Hub

Doe anyone here have any experience with 135mm spaced fixed gear Hubset? Any Recommendations? I am only interested in Double-Fixed (of course!)

I know LeVel makes them. Who else?

And what about Chainline? What options do I have, if any?

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Most Formula hubs have axles that are more than long enough to allow respacing to 135mm. Also, Phil Wood, Paul Comp, etc...
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Most Formula hubs have axles that are more than long enough to allow respacing to 135mm. Also, Phil Wood, Paul Comp, etc...
Since he's asking for 135mm hubs i'm assuming that they're going on a MTB.
Just keep in mind if you go with the formulas, they're built around a 42mm chainline, whereas MTB SS chainline is ~50mm ish? you might have to do some creative respacing + redishing to get it all to line up.
Or go with a road crank, but do you have the chainstay clearance for that?
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Doe anyone here have any experience with 135mm spaced fixed gear Hubset? Any Recommendations?

I know LeVel makes them. Who else?
I have the 135 Surly flipflop on my mtb. Awesome hub, and alot cheaper than other makes that start with P's. The chainline to the outer side of the crank was perfect.



The other option is the surly fixxer. I used it before on another mtb and it worked well. Chainline was abit off, bit can be fixed with a different sized b/b (it never occured to me to do this at the time )or switching from inner/outer side of the crank.

Edit. Another way to go is a 135mm disc hub and bolt on a Boone, Kogswell or home drilled cog. Works well from what I gather.
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I have the OnOne

It's a little heavy but it seems bombproof, chainline is something like 50mm
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I have the 135 Surly flipflop on my mtb. Awesome hub, and alot cheaper than other makes that start with P's. The chainline to the outer side of the crank was perfect.



The other option is the surly fixxer. I used it before on another mtb and it worked well. Chainline was abit off, bit can be fixed with a different sized b/b (it never occured to me to do this at the time )or switching from inner/outer side of the crank.

Edit. Another way to go is a 135mm disc hub and bolt on a Boone, Kogswell or home drilled cog. Works well from what I gather.
The frame has Track Ends not dropouts, so I have no problem there.

I checked out the Phil KISS-OFF and they're about $225. Too much for me right now.
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I have run the IRO 135mm fix/fix hub on my commuter for over a year. Not a single problem. I am a *big* dude, too. Its a great hub. Got the whole wheel (that hub with a Velocity Cliff Hanger wheel) two septembers ago and its as perfect as the day I bought it.
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i've also been running the IRO 135mm fixed/fixed hub with no problems at all.
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There's the Kogswell, and also the Kogswell. Just about to wipe off the old beausage after a jaunt downtown with 50 pounds of books and deciding to ride through the snow in the park, and mmmm, glad I bought a fixed mountain wheel.

I believe the IRO has a Kogswell hub, or they're identical.
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so is it safe to say that a 135mm hub makes the chainline 52mm?

Also, the guy from LeVel just got back to me. I asked him if his company is safe to buy from... in case they went out of business. He told me that they make their "bread and butter" from ROV research and work. So they "will be in business a long time".

Tha's good to hear, because I am considering their hubs. Phil's are awesome but too expensive. I can get theirs for about $250??? for the hubset.

I saw someone ask about the cog... whether the bolts might sear off. I looked at this hub really good. It has slots where the hub slips in, then it is bolted.

Keep the info coming though, I will keep an open mind.

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so is it safe to say that a 135mm hub makes the chainline 52mm?
Definitely 52mm chainline to the outside of my mtb triple with a Kogswell/IRO hub. It's the only bike I have with a straight chainline even.

What would the chainline be like if you bolted a cog to the disc side of a rear mtb hub?
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so is it safe to say that a 135mm hub makes the chainline 52mm?

Also, the guy from LeVel just got back to me. I asked him if his company is safe to buy from... in case they went out of business. He told me that they make their "bread and butter" from ROV research and work. So they "will be in business a long time".
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html
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I've read that.

Do I need a specific type of crankset or BB to line up the front with the 135mm hub?

What is it that makes both front and back, line up?
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I've read that.

Do I need a specific type of crankset or BB to line up the front with the 135mm hub?

What is it that makes both front and back, line up?
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