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Old 01-24-07, 08:23 AM   #1
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Tubulars on the street?

Anyone riding em? I know jack all about em and wondering what concerns there may be. Im planning to buy a complete bike tommorow if its still available and it has tubulars on it atm.
I wouldnt run em for long (a month?) as i plan to have some wheels built with the hubs that are on it and do something else with the rims.
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for a month you'll probably be fine. You may want to consider selling the wheels complete and starting from scratch though.

-If it has super light tires on it you may not be fine and it's probably not worth buying three new ones for a month. Borrow some wheels from another bike.
-If the tires are fine buy one extra(you can sell it with the wheelset) and glue it. then carry it with you in case of a flat. If you are just going to toss out the rims anyway and your rides are usually short you can just ride on the flat though.
-If the cement looks like it's hardened take off both tires strip everything and reglue.
-If you don't do that expect to spend good deal of time fixing a flat if you get one since you will have no practice.
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for a month you'll probably be fine. You may want to consider selling the wheels complete and starting from scratch though.

-If it has super light tires on it you may not be fine and it's probably not worth buying three new ones for a month. Borrow some wheels from another bike.
-If the tires are fine buy one extra(you can sell it with the wheelset) and glue it. then carry it with you in case of a flat. If you are just going to toss out the rims anyway and your rides are usually short you can just ride on the flat though.
-If the cement looks like it's hardened take off both tires strip everything and reglue.
-If you don't do that expect to spend good deal of time fixing a flat if you get one since you will have no practice.
Thanks for the advice. I do have another wheel set i could run. The tires seem to have been on the wheels for awhile so as you said, theyll die soon maybe. Cant rely on that at all since i commute about 20 miles round trip everyday.
I really want to keep the hubs that are with the rims so ill probably cut em out and ditch the rims or try to sell em locally. Theyre NJS Arayas but not so easy to sell used ones around here im thinking. People like new stuff.
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i got an old road bike that had tubulars on it.
i just glued new tires on it, Vittoria training tires and i'm riding it...the old front that was on the bike held air fine so i carry it with me when i ride that...i put a new glue coat on the rims since there was very little glue on them...the training tires seem to be pretty tough...we'll see how long before i flat.

i was told that tubulars usually leak real slow if you get a punture as opposed to how clinchers will be flat in a very short period from a simple puncture.
this true?
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i ride them. i'd be willing to take those rims off of your hands - mighty handy for stretching out new tires.
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i ride them. i'd be willing to take those rims off of your hands - mighty handy for stretching out new tires.
I doubt it's worth intercontinental shipping.
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Nah, tubies flat about like anything else, though if they have slime in them and it can't quite hack a puncture you get it will leak slowly.

People on here will buy your NJS arayas in a hot minute. Try to sell local or something, shipping bare rims is done all the time but it's not the most durable part you can put in a box. If the whole build is NJS and nice I'd almost say just resell and buy other hubs or another complete set, tearing down a wheel that somebody is going to build right back up with the same or similar hub is kind of silly, even if it does save one or both of you $10.
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See, offer on the rim already!

You might read ceya's old posts and consider just riding with them, they're not 100% ideal for everybody but hey, when the basic proposition is commuting 20 miles on track bikes we might as well go hog-a*s wild.

(I commute about that far on a fixed conversion, I'm not saying a couple degrees of frame geometry makes me superior or anything)
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Nah, tubies flat about like anything else, though if they have slime in them and it can't quite hack a puncture you get it will leak slowly.

People on here will buy your NJS arayas in a hot minute. Try to sell local or something, shipping bare rims is done all the time but it's not the most durable part you can put in a box. If the whole build is NJS and nice I'd almost say just resell and buy other hubs or another complete set, tearing down a wheel that somebody is going to build right back up with the same or similar hub is kind of silly, even if it does save one or both of you $10.
Yeah the rims, hubs, spokes, the whole deal is NJS. I see your point about not breakin em up. I was just hoping to use the hubs with a clencher rim. Something a little more streetable/durable for the daily commute, ya know.

Sers, id sell you the rims but i doubt you or anyone else would wanna ship em from Japan. It wouldnt cost that much but yeah..its not like theyre blingin new or anything.
After i get em ill take a close look and some pics and see whats up.
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Why are you attatched to these hubs? You can probably sell a full njs setup for way more then it's worth stateside and buy a complete new wheelset. A new sealed bearing hub would probably be much more appropriate for your commute too.
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Why are you attatched to these hubs? You can probably sell a full njs setup for way more then it's worth stateside and buy a complete new wheelset. A new sealed bearing hub would probably be much more appropriate for your commute too.
Yeah maybe ill try to sell them to the states and get something else here like you say. Ill make a post tommorow about the bike and show the wheel set. The only thing i need to confirm is that the frame has 120mm rear spacing. If it does, im def buying it tommorow.
Thanks for the suggestions and opinions.
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I'm in the same boat. Got a good deal on a wheelset with a dura ace high flange front and superbe pro back hubs, laced to mavic tubies. Rather than rebuild, I replaced the one bad tubular with a conti sprinter gatorskin and have been riding that. Its only been like a week so hopefully they last till the summer and then I will rebuild with clinchers.
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Again, if the initial build is solid and the tubular rims are in good shape, just sell the completes and buy the hubs you want. Yeah, you may come out $10 behind, but hacking up perfectly good wheels just to get at one part or the other is kind of silly and does a disservice to people who might want them as-is.
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actually, given the lack of real market demand for tubular track wheelsets I bet he comes out ahead by just selling the hubs.

(see recent completed auctions on C-Record wheels)
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c-record isn't njs though. I'm willing to bet some peoples obsession with having a bike they could race on the keirin circuit as is would overcome any rational compunctions about riding around on sewups.
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Are these the 24 hole wheels? Cos 24 hole loose-ball hubs aren't gonna build a very durable commuting wheelset with any rim unless you are pretty light/the roads are very good/you use zipp rims etc
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NJS C-Record exists
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Are these the 24 hole wheels? Cos 24 hole loose-ball hubs aren't gonna build a very durable commuting wheelset with any rim unless you are pretty light/the roads are very good/you use zipp rims etc
If the hubs and rims are NJS, then they are by definition 36h, laced 4x.
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