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Old 01-27-07, 06:06 PM   #1
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IRO/Motobecane build?

The IRO group buy sounds like a great deal; almost one of those situations where I can't afford not to get one. Problem is, finishing the build will cost considerably more than the frame; I'm on a tight budget and looking for ways to build the bike cheaply enough to justify buying a frame.

My bright idea was to buy a Windsor 'The Hour' and strip the parts, then sell the frame on eBay. I can't figure out a better way of getting a complete bike's worth of parts, even if the stuff on The Hour is of middling quality. What do you think?

How much do you think the frame would go for on eBay?

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Old 01-27-07, 09:20 PM   #2
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The IRO group buy sounds like a great deal; almost one of those situations where I can't afford not to get one. Problem is, finishing the build will cost considerably more than the frame; I'm on a tight budget and looking for ways to build the bike cheaply enough to justify buying a frame.

My bright idea was to buy a Motobecane 'The Hour' and strip the parts, then sell the frame on eBay. I can't figure out a better way of getting a complete bike's worth of parts, even if the stuff on The Hour is of middling quality. What do you think?

How much do you think the frame would go for on eBay?

Mac
Buy a green Kilo TT instead...something between 58-60cm, and I'll bid on the frame.
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Old 01-27-07, 09:31 PM   #3
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i've got a windsor "the hour," i've had it for about 10 months. you could probably get anywhere from $50-100 for the frame... but then, maybe more if you find a good sucker- i mean buyer.
the wheels are machine built and will require a tuneup after a few months, the front wheel has cartridge bearings, the rear has normal "sealed" bearings. you'll need a new cog and lockring. the stem faceplate bolts stripped out after about a dozen times being bolted and unbolted, the threads just pulled right out. the headset is weak, and the bb isn't too far behind. the seatpost and saddle, they're ok. the bars i ditched for bullhorns. the cranks are ok.
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Old 01-27-07, 09:34 PM   #4
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tony did say he'd offer a discount on build kits, but nothing has been finalized
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Old 01-27-07, 10:02 PM   #5
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...the wheels are machine built and will require a tuneup after a few months...
Yeah I figured that; I've built a couple wheels, so truing or even rebuilding them isn't too scary for me.

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...you'll need a new cog and lockring.
why do you say that?

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...the headset is weak...
ok, this may be a stupid question: when buying a 'frame and fork' (such as the IRO deal), does that typically include the fork INSTALLED in the frame (ie headset included) or just loose (ie source your own headset)?

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No headset or BB.
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Old 01-27-07, 10:12 PM   #7
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No headset or BB.
that's what I figured. gracias.
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sac02: if you, by chance, live in chicago, i might be interested in buying the Hour frame off you. by the way, it's Windsor, not Motobecane.
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Re: chi-town

Sorry, I'm in H-town, TX

Re: Motobecane/Windsor

Doh!
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since you live in texas, you could pick these up from the store direct

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-TRACK-ROAD-B...QQcmdZViewItem

and grab the single speed cranks + BB off chucksbikes.com ($65)

add another $60 or so for stem, bars, seatpost, saddle, and chain if you bargain hunt

which comes to $370 total vs. $150 frame + $350 windsor - however much the frame sells for (between $75 and $100, I'd guess)

either way it'd probably be pretty close
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since you live in texas, you could pick these up from the store direct

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-TRACK-ROAD-B...QQcmdZViewItem
Those look like they might be a decent deal for $100, hand built and all, though I know little about vuelta. I like how they meticuously list ALL the specs of the build... except the weight, heh heh.
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which comes to $370 total vs. $150 frame + $350 windsor - however much the frame sells for (between $75 and $100, I'd guess)

either way it'd probably be pretty close
There's an eBay seller in Austin w/ Windsors for $239 that I emailed this afternoon to ask about local pickup. At the moment it seems, for $240 minus the money recouped from the frame sale, that may be hard to beat.

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that IS hard to beat

forget what I said, that's a ****in steal
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Holy crap, go for it!

By the way, you DO realize the the Windsor is the exact frame as the Fuji Track right? If you list the frame on craigslist and mention that it's essentially a Fuji Track, it may fetch you a little more $$$, since the Fuji Track does seem to be more popular.

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There's an eBay seller in Austin w/ Windsors for $239 that I emailed this afternoon to ask about local pickup. At the moment it seems, for $240 minus the money recouped from the frame sale, that may be hard to beat.

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Nobody here will agree, but the IRO frame will not be such a super-duper turbo upgrade from the windsor/fuji frame that futzing with swapping the parts over would really be worth it. Those frames are actually better than most of the parts going on them, especially the wheels. I would just get some wheels from one of the known cheap vendors and prowl ebay and CL for the next couple of months looking for the other bits. Otherwise, just buy an IRO build kit, they're a pretty good value.
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^ yeah Landgolier's got it right.
the OP has it backwards

The *frame* is what's worth keeping on the Windsor, the parts are decidedly meh
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^ yeah Landgolier's got it right.
the OP has it backwards

The *frame* is what's worth keeping on the Windsor, the parts are decidedly meh

on that note you can beg for parts here, if you pay for shipping i have a nitto technomic stem in 110mm that you could have(that's if you're going to threaded, which i think the hour is so you must be)
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The IRO group buy sounds like a great deal; almost one of those situations where I can't afford not to get one. Problem is, finishing the build will cost considerably more than the frame; I'm on a tight budget and looking for ways to build the bike cheaply enough to justify buying a frame.

My bright idea was to buy a Windsor 'The Hour' and strip the parts, then sell the frame on eBay. I can't figure out a better way of getting a complete bike's worth of parts, even if the stuff on The Hour is of middling quality. What do you think?

How much do you think the frame would go for on eBay?

Mac

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Why don't you just save up money and buy parts as money allows?
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