Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 17 of 17
  1. #1
    i ride a bicycle
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    1,017
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    IRO/Motobecane build?

    The IRO group buy sounds like a great deal; almost one of those situations where I can't afford not to get one. Problem is, finishing the build will cost considerably more than the frame; I'm on a tight budget and looking for ways to build the bike cheaply enough to justify buying a frame.

    My bright idea was to buy a Windsor 'The Hour' and strip the parts, then sell the frame on eBay. I can't figure out a better way of getting a complete bike's worth of parts, even if the stuff on The Hour is of middling quality. What do you think?

    How much do you think the frame would go for on eBay?

    Mac

    edit: Windsor
    Last edited by sac02; 01-28-07 at 01:05 AM.

  2. #2
    Senior Member mihlbach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    6,349
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by sac02
    The IRO group buy sounds like a great deal; almost one of those situations where I can't afford not to get one. Problem is, finishing the build will cost considerably more than the frame; I'm on a tight budget and looking for ways to build the bike cheaply enough to justify buying a frame.

    My bright idea was to buy a Motobecane 'The Hour' and strip the parts, then sell the frame on eBay. I can't figure out a better way of getting a complete bike's worth of parts, even if the stuff on The Hour is of middling quality. What do you think?

    How much do you think the frame would go for on eBay?

    Mac
    Buy a green Kilo TT instead...something between 58-60cm, and I'll bid on the frame.

  3. #3
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i've got a windsor "the hour," i've had it for about 10 months. you could probably get anywhere from $50-100 for the frame... but then, maybe more if you find a good sucker- i mean buyer.
    the wheels are machine built and will require a tuneup after a few months, the front wheel has cartridge bearings, the rear has normal "sealed" bearings. you'll need a new cog and lockring. the stem faceplate bolts stripped out after about a dozen times being bolted and unbolted, the threads just pulled right out. the headset is weak, and the bb isn't too far behind. the seatpost and saddle, they're ok. the bars i ditched for bullhorns. the cranks are ok.

  4. #4
    Senior Member euphoria's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    1,531
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    tony did say he'd offer a discount on build kits, but nothing has been finalized

  5. #5
    i ride a bicycle
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    1,017
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by nhamata
    ...the wheels are machine built and will require a tuneup after a few months...
    Yeah I figured that; I've built a couple wheels, so truing or even rebuilding them isn't too scary for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhamata
    ...you'll need a new cog and lockring.
    why do you say that?

    Quote Originally Posted by nhamata
    ...the headset is weak...
    ok, this may be a stupid question: when buying a 'frame and fork' (such as the IRO deal), does that typically include the fork INSTALLED in the frame (ie headset included) or just loose (ie source your own headset)?

    Mac

  6. #6
    crotchety young dude el twe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    SF, CA
    My Bikes
    IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
    Posts
    4,818
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    No headset or BB.
    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacKid View Post
    I explained that he could never pay me enough cash for the amount of work I had put into that bike and the only way to compensate me for it was to ride the hell out of it.
    IRO Angus Casati Gold Line

  7. #7
    i ride a bicycle
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    1,017
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by el twe
    No headset or BB.
    that's what I figured. gracias.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    223
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    sac02: if you, by chance, live in chicago, i might be interested in buying the Hour frame off you. by the way, it's Windsor, not Motobecane.

  9. #9
    i ride a bicycle
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    1,017
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Re: chi-town

    Sorry, I'm in H-town, TX

    Re: Motobecane/Windsor

    Doh!

  10. #10
    Senior Member euphoria's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    1,531
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    since you live in texas, you could pick these up from the store direct

    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-TRACK-ROAD-B...QQcmdZViewItem

    and grab the single speed cranks + BB off chucksbikes.com ($65)

    add another $60 or so for stem, bars, seatpost, saddle, and chain if you bargain hunt

    which comes to $370 total vs. $150 frame + $350 windsor - however much the frame sells for (between $75 and $100, I'd guess)

    either way it'd probably be pretty close

  11. #11
    i ride a bicycle
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    1,017
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by euphoria
    since you live in texas, you could pick these up from the store direct

    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-TRACK-ROAD-B...QQcmdZViewItem
    Those look like they might be a decent deal for $100, hand built and all, though I know little about vuelta. I like how they meticuously list ALL the specs of the build... except the weight, heh heh.
    Quote Originally Posted by euphoria
    which comes to $370 total vs. $150 frame + $350 windsor - however much the frame sells for (between $75 and $100, I'd guess)

    either way it'd probably be pretty close
    There's an eBay seller in Austin w/ Windsors for $239 that I emailed this afternoon to ask about local pickup. At the moment it seems, for $240 minus the money recouped from the frame sale, that may be hard to beat.

    Mac

  12. #12
    Senior Member euphoria's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    1,531
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    that IS hard to beat

    forget what I said, that's a ****in steal

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    223
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Holy crap, go for it!

    By the way, you DO realize the the Windsor is the exact frame as the Fuji Track right? If you list the frame on craigslist and mention that it's essentially a Fuji Track, it may fetch you a little more $$$, since the Fuji Track does seem to be more popular.

    Quote Originally Posted by sac02
    There's an eBay seller in Austin w/ Windsors for $239 that I emailed this afternoon to ask about local pickup. At the moment it seems, for $240 minus the money recouped from the frame sale, that may be hard to beat.

    Mac

  14. #14
    THIS SPACE FOR RENT
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    2,849
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Nobody here will agree, but the IRO frame will not be such a super-duper turbo upgrade from the windsor/fuji frame that futzing with swapping the parts over would really be worth it. Those frames are actually better than most of the parts going on them, especially the wheels. I would just get some wheels from one of the known cheap vendors and prowl ebay and CL for the next couple of months looking for the other bits. Otherwise, just buy an IRO build kit, they're a pretty good value.
    "I don't buy new frames, it just encourages them."

    -T.G.

  15. #15
    Cornucopia of Awesomeness baxtefer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    not where i used to be
    Posts
    4,847
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ^ yeah Landgolier's got it right.
    the OP has it backwards

    The *frame* is what's worth keeping on the Windsor, the parts are decidedly meh
    {o,o**
    |)__)
    -"-"-

    O RLY?

  16. #16
    Senior Member soyboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    brooklyn
    My Bikes
    raleigh gran prix converted to fixed
    Posts
    941
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by baxtefer
    ^ yeah Landgolier's got it right.
    the OP has it backwards

    The *frame* is what's worth keeping on the Windsor, the parts are decidedly meh

    on that note you can beg for parts here, if you pay for shipping i have a nitto technomic stem in 110mm that you could have(that's if you're going to threaded, which i think the hour is so you must be)

  17. #17
    Senior Member Ziemas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Riga, Latvia
    Posts
    10,070
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by sac02
    The IRO group buy sounds like a great deal; almost one of those situations where I can't afford not to get one. Problem is, finishing the build will cost considerably more than the frame; I'm on a tight budget and looking for ways to build the bike cheaply enough to justify buying a frame.

    My bright idea was to buy a Windsor 'The Hour' and strip the parts, then sell the frame on eBay. I can't figure out a better way of getting a complete bike's worth of parts, even if the stuff on The Hour is of middling quality. What do you think?

    How much do you think the frame would go for on eBay?

    Mac

    edit: Windsor
    Why don't you just save up money and buy parts as money allows?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •