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Old 01-28-07, 10:34 PM   #1
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Windsor (not the Hour) Question

I'm looking to pick up a windsor track-pro. However I'm having trouble finding info on this bike, every time I do a search nothing but info on the "hour" comes up. Can anyone help me out with more information on this bike? I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
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Old 01-29-07, 07:16 AM   #2
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Year or other info?

Sure it's not just a Fuji?
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Old 01-29-07, 07:20 AM   #3
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I've never seen a Windsor Track Pro, and it's not shown
on bikesdirect.com, so I think you're confusing it with
the Fuji Track Pro.
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Is this a vintage or a new bike?
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Old 01-29-07, 08:29 AM   #5
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copied and pasted from sheldon's "old bike" chart: Windsor Pro (Track) 1980? 27.2
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Old 01-29-07, 09:34 AM   #6
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Ahh, obviously our minds are all clouded with that new
eBay/bikesdirect junk. Vintage Windsor bikes were, as
far as I know, top of the line. I have a friend with the
Eddy Merckx signature Windsor from around the time
he did his Hour record, and it's nothing to scoff at.
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maybe yer thinkin of the rush hour pro, by raleigh?

http://www.raleighusa.com/items.asp?deptid=5&itemid=351
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you're talking about the old made in mexico lugged steel Windsor track pro, right?
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No No, I'm sorry I will clarify. I am talking about the mexican made windsor pro-track of the 70's. Its lugged and I believe its colmbus tubbing. Its suposedly a cinelli rip off. Sheldon has a paragraph that says the road bikes are so so, but then at the end he says the track bikes are great but never gives any reasoning behind it. I just wanna make sure this is a good bike that will last me a long time.

thanks... again
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sheldon is a good source for the information - email him and ask, or maybe he'll post here.

if the frame is in good condition - rust, dents, welds not coming apart - then yeah, it will last you a long time. i mean, it's come this far. that's the beauty of steel frames.
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I've only ever seen pictures of one once.
It did look like a cinelli copy

Apparently Marymoor velodrome in Seattle had a few of them as rentals, but has since sold them all off.
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If its the vintage mexican ones you're after try emailing whoever it was that has one on FGG and see how they feel about it
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I have one - see my velospace sig - where is what I found:

An executive left Cineli in the 70's and started Windsor in Mexico, using the same design, tubing, components, etc. The workmanship is not the greatest - some the drill holes in the lugs are slightly off center, but everything else is great. The bikes came with a full Campy Group and were relatively cheap, so people often bougth them for the components alone. I have seen some with Campy, Shimano and no name track ends. The bike that Eddie Merckx set a record on was not an actual Windsor - Windsor executives asked Merckx if we would rebadge his bike while in Mexico. EM did and set the record.

As far as the bike is concerned - I like it, but I only have road bikes to compare it with I have not had other track bikes. It is all Columbus. Mine has the Shimano track ends, but due to my liking of Campagnolo, is outfitted with the Campy Pista Group. I have replaced my saddle and am now running boxed section tubulars instead of the deep v rims. I have not seen another Windsor track bike, but have seen different road frames of varying quality. The professional was their top line as far as I could tell.
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A Mexican knockoff of an Italian bike with an English sounding name! I love it! Aside from it's international mongrel pedigree, it's also a very pretty bike.
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Its lugged and I believe its colmbus tubbing.
I too am on a search for a lugged bike with tubbing.



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Fyi check out 1973 Windsor on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Windsor-...QQcmdZViewItem

or a 2006 Windsor

http://cgi.ebay.com/Windsor-The-Hour...QQcmdZViewItem


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