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Old 01-29-07, 06:05 PM   #1
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PISTA CONCEPT FRAME QUEStions

I am thinking of getting a concept frame set. If anyone has one let me know how they like it. I have seen
them but never had the chance to ride one.
What BB are people running on them?
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Old 01-29-07, 06:10 PM   #2
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Hatta BB and Sug 75 cranks

I enjoy this upgrade in frame choices for the track
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Old 01-29-07, 06:17 PM   #3
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The frameset itself is no longer for sale. Complete bike only.
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Old 01-29-07, 06:17 PM   #4
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try and get an 06 complete it has sugino 75s volos and deda pista bars and comes in classic celeste a couple of my friends love theirs
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try and get an 06 complete it has sugino 75s volos and deda pista bars and comes in classic celeste a couple of my friends love theirs
The only differences from the stuff you listed are the color (07 is white with celeste decals) and the cranks (the SRAM Track crank with the external BB is nothing to sneeze at, in its own right). 2007 model still has the Deda bars and the Cane Creek Volos wheelset.

No matter which year you get though, that's a hot bike. I want.

I had the chance to ride one for probably 7 or 8 miles on the street and you couldn't have knocked the grin off my face.
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I think board member transplant might have a brand new frameset for sale if you're tall.
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I think board member transplant might have a brand new frameset for sale if you're tall.
Being under 6 feet tall has kept me from more than a few hot bikes, hot women, and high-paying sales jobs in Asia.
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Old 01-29-07, 07:07 PM   #8
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I rode one for about a year and a half before I decided to stop racing track. I couldn't bear to ride it on the street for more than an hour or so, that bike beat the living crap out of me.



nevermind the cat.
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I rode one for about a year and a half before I decided to stop racing track. I couldn't bear to ride it on the street for more than an hour or so, that bike beat the living crap out of me.



nevermind the cat.

Well remember thats a trrack geometry bike... a road bike isnt even similar to a track bike (real racing machines). Besides... that frame is too small for you and probably that was the problem to start with, or you have super long legs and super short upperbody just like a FROG... hehehe hot bike anyways

thanks...
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great choice for a moderately expensive track bike, incredibly bad choice for riding around or locking up.
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Old 01-29-07, 07:41 PM   #11
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Besides... that frame is too small for you and probably that was the problem to start with, or you have super long legs and super short upperbody just like a FROG... hehehe hot bike anyways

thanks...
thanks. actually, my legs are shorter than average, i just liked to ride my saddle a bit higher than usual on the track. as far as the short stem, that was just temporary. i normally ran either a 120 or 130 on it.

i'll add this: the tubing is really, really thin. dents quite easily. if you're going to ride one around town locking up all the time i'd definitely invest in a good high quality top-tube pad. and maybe a down-tube and seat-tube pad as well.
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refriedcycles has a 04 or 05 framesset for 5bills i think a 54

oh truvativ sucks
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I agree with the other sentiments that for a mid price level bike that you actually plan on racing, it's awesome. I'm had mine for 2 years and have loved every minute with it.

I also agree with the fact that it isn't like some steel bike that will never have problems. I bought a *****in' lock to lock it up, but never locked it up once, or rode it anyplace but a the track and at a few training rides because after you ride it you get an idea of how somewhat fragile it is. That's not to say it's truly fragile, but it's definetely not burly, which is something guys that ride on the street and lock up primarily need.
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Old 01-29-07, 09:42 PM   #14
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I've had mine for awhile. I ride a lot, and lock it up a lot. It is fragile, so I try and be carful, but I did end up getting 3 small paint scratches in the frame from a drunken crash. Huge mistake riding it.

It has held up fine just riding around and locking it up to various things. I don't really lock up really fast though... kind of gently do it.

You do get a **** load of comments with the bike though. Seems like a lot of people are attracted to them... even if they are not cyclists.

Amazing bike!!

Edit: Oh yea... i'm running a Shimano BB with my ****ty RPM cranks because the spindle length doesn't match my Sugino 75 BB. I eventually plan on getting Sugino 75 cranks though.
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What sealed BB will work with the concept and sugino 75 crank.
I know the phill wood one is and its ajustable.
Are there any that are cheaper?
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yeah you can get a cheap 110 bb sealed at your lbs. I think it might be shimano. Although your chainline will be 1 mm off.......
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Yup, cheap shimano bbs UN-53 or 53 or the nicer UN-70 something. I'm not really sure what the numbers are these days. I personally run an XTR bb because that's what I was able to find local.
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although there is debate over whether the chainline is really "on" or not, many people (myself included) use a shimano un-53 or un-73 with either 107 or 110 spindle for sugino 75 cranks. obviously the matching bb or the hatta would be preferable (or a phil for that matter) but most of us don't encounter any problems with the shimano.
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