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Old 01-30-07, 09:52 PM   #1
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kashimax saddle

does anyone know about the kashimax saddles that bens cycle is selling?

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...roducts_id=660

are these the more comfortable of the kashimax? i've heard that some are padded enough to be comfortable for heavy riding, but i can't seem to find which.
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Old 01-30-07, 09:54 PM   #2
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i rode that saddle for a while. it was okay, but not exactly comfortable. thats about as padded as you're going to get with a kashimax though, they are designed for riding for a few laps in a race, nothing more.. I did 60 miles on it and was okay, but hated it at the velodrome. be aware you will need a 30mm rail width seat post. nitto makes the jaguar in that width, thats the only one availible as far as i know.

they do look awesome though.
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Old 01-30-07, 09:54 PM   #3
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None of them are going to be "comfortable"... semi-bearable, maybe.. but not comfortable
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Dear god, thats some mark up. Those things are like 75 bucks here for the cushion ones...which are the most expensive ones.
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adam, the kashimax i had was 44mm rails. they are out there.
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Can somone please tell me why everyone in the USA, including Ben's Cycles, calls them 'Kashimax' when the company name is 'Kashima'?
I dont understand where this X is coming from...? I do see the saddle on his site says Kashimax on it though. I feel so lost. Whats my name? Please take me home.
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yea but the one he linked is 30. was your padded derek? i dont doubt that they're out there, but the 8gp are all 30.

deathhare - the X comes from the marketing department. for the same reason sansin hubs are called sanshin, to appease the gaijin.
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ahh..so in the states theyre kashimax and here theyre kashima. Thats gonna be included in the Trivial Pursuit Keirin edition, i bet.
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i guess. on the saddle is was marked kashimax, but on the underside of the saddle on the plastic shell it was marked kashima if i remember right. i believe kashimax was the product name, where kashima is the company?
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yea but the one he linked is 30. was your padded derek? i dont doubt that they're out there, but the 8gp are all 30.
Ah, the link didn't work for me. And yeah, mine was padded... by a .5mm thick peice of material wrappeda round the plastic saddle haha... (no, not padded at all).
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Ok back on topic. According to some info on a site here, the Kashima 5gold 8p only comes in 30mm, the 5gold 7 comes in 30mm and the 5gold 4p comes in 40mm. The one shown on Ben's Cycles must be 30mm? Unless its different in the states.
Check it out. http://www.takizawa-web.com/shop-tra...rack1-top.html
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The one he linked is 30mm only.
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i just want to take this moment to say its no fair that the grand mighty cranks are the same price in jp as the 75s are here.
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Yeah its not FAIR! Wait..i like that fact. Not that im buying any.
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The padded Kashimax is actually the FG8PA. That one is the FG8PE, as in embroidered. I looked around for one a few months back with no luck, EAI didn't have anymore and didn't expect to get anymore. Ended up scoring a NOS Kashimax RS on ebay for forty bucks, it's a lot like a turbo, but a little smaller and the padding is a lot more dense. It's actually really comfy, I'm very happy with it.
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Dear god, thats some mark up. Those things are like 75 bucks here for the cushion ones...which are the most expensive ones.
Man, Deathhare, every time you post about the affordability of NJS parts in Tokyo, I die a little bit inside. At least we've got cheap fruit and affordable movies on this side. It's not much, but it'll have to do.
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Dear god, thats some mark up. Those things are like 75 bucks here for the cushion ones...which are the most expensive ones.

Not true, there are some shops selling almost 100.00

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Can somone please tell me why everyone in the USA, including Ben's Cycles, calls them 'Kashimax' when the company name is 'Kashima'?
I dont understand where this X is coming from...?
The "X" is because in America, these are X-TREME saddles.
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This is a little off topic but for those in Japan, how low are the prices on Nitto, Sugino and Shimano parts? What about Track vs. Road? I live in Korea and would love to make a trip over on the ferry to do a little shopping.
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This is a little off topic but for those in Japan, how low are the prices on Nitto, Sugino and Shimano parts? What about Track vs. Road? I live in Korea and would love to make a trip over on the ferry to do a little shopping.
IMO, the prices are very good compared to the USA. Often, 50% cheaper or more than the USA on NJS stuff. The problem is knowing the places to go. Most bikes shops dont care track stuff, of course. Most of the trendy shops seem to be way overpriced on some of the track stuff too.
If you come over on the ferry that means youll be landing in Niigata or somewhere on the north coast. Id guess track related shops are scarce around there. In Tokyo there are quite a few places.
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IMO, the prices are very good compared to the USA. Often, 50% cheaper or more than the USA on NJS stuff. The problem is knowing the places to go. Most bikes shops dont care track stuff, of course. Most of the trendy shops seem to be way overpriced on some of the track stuff too.
If you come over on the ferry that means youll be landing in Niigata or somewhere on the north coast. Id guess track related shops are scarce around there. In Tokyo there are quite a few places.
If I went it would be over a long weekend and I would head to a big city for sure. How about the prices on road stuff? I could use a new fixed wheelset but my next bike will have gears. I could buy parts here but there are high import tariffs so it is all pretty expensive and I haven't been to Japan since I was a kid. What are you doing in there, if you don't mind me asking?
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I have no idea on the price of road stuff. Never cared to look i guess. Id guess most of it is also cheaper but im not sure.
My job? Im a...wait for it....english teacher.
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Haha me too, I was expecting you to say that. Thanks for the info, if I decide to visit Tokyo expect a PM from me asking what shops to check out.
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Haha me too, I was expecting you to say that. Thanks for the info, if I decide to visit Tokyo expect a PM from me asking what shops to check out.
Yeah no problem. Maybe you should get outta there and live here.
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I'm guessing (the only part of Japan I've seen is the inside of Narita airport), but olde road stuff will be ungodly expensive if it's Italian, and cheap if it's Japanese. Deathhare, you gotta put together some product for this side of the pond - headsets, pedals, straps, cranks, chainrings, cogs, etc - little stuff, cheap and easy to ship. I'm sure we'll make it worth your while.

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