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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 01-31-07, 06:25 PM   #1
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40 or 48 spoke fixed gear hubs, anyone got 'em?

Seems like 36 is the max. How can I do a 40+ spoke wheel?
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Old 01-31-07, 06:28 PM   #2
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Maybe run a BMX suicide hub? I think the width is different but that can be handled.
Nothing too easy i think. I wish it were..i have some evil looking TNT Revolvers that id love to use.
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Hm.. why do you want to do that?

/curious
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Old 01-31-07, 06:35 PM   #4
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Hm.. why do you want to do that?
Because I'm NOT a lean mean fighting machine - due to excess intake of pork products - see sig for further assitance
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Old 01-31-07, 06:39 PM   #5
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Hahaha.. Don't underestimate 36h setups. They can take quite a load, I hear.
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Old 01-31-07, 06:40 PM   #6
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20 or 24 hole hub, drill extra hole between each existing hole
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Old 01-31-07, 06:46 PM   #7
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36h touring/tandem rim (velocity dyad, mavic a719), straight gauge spokes, quality wheelbuild. No need for more spokes.
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custom drilled phils

but yeah 36 holes, 14g straight spokes and a burly rim should do you
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Old 01-31-07, 08:26 PM   #9
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Sturmey Archer ASC hubs are 40 hole if I remember correctly. Unfortunately, I believe the only available production rim in 40 hole is a Weinman, enough said. I, along with many others on this board, think a phil 36 hole 3x or 4x laced to a cxp33 would be strong enough for anything but dirtjumping. Just remember o pump your tires almost to the max and use straight gage spkes and brass nipples.
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Old 01-31-07, 08:30 PM   #10
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uh SA ASC hubs are extremely rare and incredibly expensive once you find them
and 40 hole rims are actually quite common. it's a common tandem drilling. mavic, velocity, sun all make 40H 700c rims.
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fyxomatosis.com has a nice 40h campy something or other for sale.

yeah, usually special drillings for tandem wheels.
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Old 01-31-07, 09:25 PM   #12
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if you make this happpen, please post pics. i'm picturing the bike version of 100 spoke dayton's (think lowrider) or something...

although, some kid in sf has probably already done it...in gold...
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I bet you'll be fine with 36. Just run big tires, and yes, make sure your wheels are built/set up by someone who knows what he or she is doing.
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Straight gauge really isn't any stronger than double butted. And according to DT swiss (who just may have an interest in selling more expensive spokes) they're actually weaker.
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Any tandem shop can get you 40 or 48 hole hubs.Those made for fixed are a bit harder to get.UK ebay usually have british hubs which come 40 rear / 32 front.Many in Flip/flop.
36 hole hubs are very strong,for a regular single bicycle(non-tandem)Using modern double wall rims.Velocity deep Vs come to mind.
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Call or email Phil Wood. They might even have some special colored hubs with lots of holes in them.
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Straight gauge really isn't any stronger than double butted. And according to DT swiss (who just may have an interest in selling more expensive spokes) they're actually weaker.
straight gauge spokes are stiffer. this is what makes them seem "weaker". They're not weaker per se, they just wear out faster.
butted spokes, when stressed will flex at the thin section, well, because it's thinner.
SG spokes, being SG don't flex as readily thus concentrate most of the force at the J-bend leading to fatigue and ultimately breakage
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I weigh ~ 260-265 and I have no issues w/ 36h wheels on my mtb, or fixie.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/40-H-CAMPAGNOL...em170075074606 But unfortunately it's QR. Keep your eyes peeled on UK ebay.
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You don't need those hubs, but hey, if you WANT them, I come across 32/40 combos from time to time over here, and have sold them to BF members in the past. But seriously, I'm 250, and I don't need any more than 36.
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juvi and i were bidding on a track tandem a few years back that had a 42h front and a disc rear.
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I've got my eye on a track tandem right now with wooden rims. That's what I'm talking about.
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I've got 40 hole campy and zeus hubz.
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42H? that doesn't make sense
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if that's what you want, more power to you. a few BMX hubs were 40+. for me, being on the wrong side of 200, I've never had a problem with 36 either.

edited to add; it's rims that will be the problem.

if you want 72s,
http://www.aztlanbicycle.com/lowrider-wheels.html

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