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Old 02-01-07, 11:49 PM   #1
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Saddle help

Upgrading my saddle - I only use it as a commuter, no track racing

Willing to spend a good amt of dollars on it

What should i get? i've heard of brooks, sella san marco, kashima

Heard leather takes more maintenance and time to mold in but feels much better than anything else - and heard saddles of other materials aren't as comfortable but require no maintenance - which one should i choose?

Last thing - what measurements do i need to take inconsideration for buying a new saddle? the frame or the seat post?

thanks everybody
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Old 02-01-07, 11:58 PM   #2
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I have Brooks. There's definitely pro's and con's so it may be the best saddle for someone and horrible for another.

Pros:
-Molds to your ass in time
-Natural leather
-Aesthetics (opinion, but I think they really complement a classy bike)
-Supposedly the comfiest thing in the world once it's broken in, I haven't broken mine in as of yet.

Neutral:
-Will need some maintanence, AKA Proofide from time to time and from initial start up. For me this is neither a con nor pro because I appreciate getting to know my saddle and helping improve it's condition, though not having to worry about it would be okay too. I could go either way, all you have to do is wipe a layer of lardy cream onto the saddle and let it sit overnight, then wipe off the filmy residue the next day, it's no biggie.

Cons:
-Heavier than most other saddles
-Have to keep it covered up in the rain, but saran wrap works extremely well in a pinch, and they make saddle covers for it too
-It's taking awhile to break in, so it's definitely a patience thing. I've had mine for 2, maybe 2.5 months now and while it's better than the day I bought it, it's not exactly like "sitting on God's hands" or whatever mythical, ornate expression Brooks lovers use to describe the comfort. Also, I seem to have good days on the saddle and I seem to have bad days too, but that's probably more to do with how I sit in it.




As far as I've heard, Kashimax saddles are very uncomfortable, even if you get the most padded one. They are designed to be sat down on for 2 minutes on a track. They do match an all NJS set up well though, and are nice looking. But unless I rode in one myself and really liked it, I'd never spring for one. I've heard a few people like that really firm, unforgiving feel though.
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Old 02-02-07, 12:10 AM   #3
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Old 02-02-07, 12:59 AM   #4
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Selle San Marco Rolls Classic. Have this on my two road bikes and real real comfortable on very long rides. Ironically on my new fixed I blew an order and got the Selle San Marco Rolls Due which is about 1 cm narrower than the Classic and I could really feel the difference. Now got a Rolls Classic for the fixed and can't wait for next ride.

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Old 02-02-07, 01:20 AM   #5
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I have a Brooks B17 and a Professional and love em both. The Pro is very pretty but the B17 is better over the very long haul because its flatter top fits my ass better. B17's are comfortable right off the bat and break in very quickly, far more so than Pro's. Finally they're cheap if you shop around. For commuting and for a first brooks that's what I would recommend---they seem to suit the widest variety of people.
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Old 02-02-07, 01:25 AM   #6
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That ol' Flite is nice. Brooks is great. I'm into the no padding molded carbon thing right now. No water rot, and it's all about the shape, not the cushion of the saddle.
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Old 02-02-07, 01:35 AM   #7
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I've got a big @$$, so I bought a brooks 2 yrs ago (i'm polish, what do you want). It was great off the bat--while certainly it has borken in... it was never really uncomfortable to begin with. Before the brooks, i bought and returned 4 gell, cut-out, latest gizmo pieces of crap---at the end of the day the plastic always dug into my nether region and my sit bones would ache from hanging over the sides. If you;ve got the dough, i'd recommend the brooks. But a brooks saddle is kinda like a fixed-gear bike--you either love it or hate it.
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Old 02-02-07, 07:30 AM   #8
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sella slr. it must be the thinnest saddle out there. im not gonna say it is the most comfortable, but its so hard, that you really can put your weight on your sit bones and of the middle areas. suffice to say i bought a new saddle because of some numbing down there, and since switching, i havent had that problem.
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Old 02-02-07, 08:27 AM   #9
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Terry Fly

As for the measurements, unless you have some strange seatpost, you should have no problems with any current saddle. Except unicycle saddles and some newer bmx designs.
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I got a kashimax fivegold with the Eimei that I just purchased. Worst.Saddle.Ever. At least if you plan on riding for more than 10 minutes.

I think I have butt bruises from commuting to school on it yesterday.
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Old 02-02-07, 09:01 AM   #11
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give it to me.
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i just got a Rolls. it's really pleanant - smooth and firm and shaped so that i can slide forward and backward to change my positioning, and still by comfy. plus, ones in decent shape live on ebay for $affordable.

i also have an FSA SLK saddle on my other bike. it's fine. took a little while to find the comfort zone on it, but once i did, it was great.
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I have two Brooks Swifts - one (honey) took about 2500 miles to break-in but the other (black) was comfy after only 400-500 miles. Both feel great now. I also have both a Specialized Alias and a Toupe - both are 142mm wide and although the Alias has more padding the Toupe is more comfy...and $50 more expensive.
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Alternatively you could get a modern saddle.

Really though saddles are a very personal choice dependent on your shape and how you ride.
How low are your bars?
How far do you ride?
Are you in the saddle for long stretches or do you get up and mash frequently?
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Sella San Marco Concor Supercorsa is my favorite. Got it NOS from nashbar ~year ago for $20 They seem to pop up there every once in a while. I think they just had some white ones listed.
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Sella San Marco Concor Supercorsa is my favorite. Got it NOS from nashbar ~year ago for $20 They seem to pop up there every once in a while. I think they just had some white ones listed.
...which went in about a minute and a half.
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For an all-weather commuter, a brooks might not be the best option, unless you're willing to be very good about covering it up in bad weather.

I've had good luck with WTB saddles- the curve is like a broken in brooks, without the hassle.

You might try going to the lbs, and asking if they have take-off saddles from new bikes for cheap- this is a good way to try out a couple of types without breaking the bank.
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...which went in about a minute and a half.
So true. You gotta be on that. I wasn't too upset this time because they were white, which is not my thing, but I got lucky with the tan suede ones last year.
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I will second a vote for a Selle Italia Turbo. I have one exactly as pictured, it was a bit hard initially but broke in quickly and now is very comfortable for a forward riding position imo. If you ride more upright it might not be as comfortable.
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Second this one. Iv'e got one and love it. I am currenly looking to replace my road bike saddle with a Fly becaues it is so comfortable.
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I had a pretty boney ass...

my favorite is the fizik poggio. ive heard alot of people say it was the most uncomfortable saddle they've ever owned though.


my second favorite is the concor supercorsa
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Pricey but super comfy right out of the box.The TI version isn't really all that heavy
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I will second a vote for a Selle Italia Turbo. I have one exactly as pictured, it was a bit hard initially but broke in quickly and now is very comfortable for a forward riding position imo. If you ride more upright it might not be as comfortable.
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For an all-weather commuter, a brooks might not be the best option, unless you're willing to be very good about covering it up in bad weather.

I've had good luck with WTB saddles- the curve is like a broken in brooks, without the hassle.
agreed 100%

i have a b17 i am trying real hard to get comfortable with right now. after a couple months it is alright and seeemingly getting better.

but on all my other bikes i have a wtb speedv. that saddle is just comfy right out of the box, it's cheap, and i don't have to worry about it getting wet. wider and uglier than most of the stylish saddles out there but then to me those are like riding with a 2x4 shoved in my crack.

for an all weather commuter i would stay away from the brooks.
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I had a pretty boney ass...

my favorite is the fizik poggio. ive heard alot of people say it was the most uncomfortable saddle they've ever owned though.


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I have one of these on my Soma. Don't have too many miles on it. Definitely more padding than my current favorite San Marco Regal but I think I still prefer the Regal.
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