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sac02 02-15-07 09:38 PM

torque crank bolts to... ?
 
Hey guys sorry I didn't search, but I need a quick answer and sifting through search results usually takes me longer than just asking a simple question.

I have a cup and cone, loose ball, BB with a square taper campy spindle on my peugeot fixie conversion. Bulletproof bmx cranks (budget reasons).

What is the proper tightening torque for the crank bolts? The cranks just started to get a tiny bit loose, hopefully I caught it before the cranks have been irreperably damaged. I originally tightened the bolts as tight as I could get them with a 3/8" drive wratchet wrench, but I'm guessing that's not tight enough. I have a 1/2" drive torque wrench. What's the proper torque to use this time?

Mac

hockeyteeth 02-15-07 10:12 PM

Sometimes the cranks loosen on the spindle after you initially tighten them and ride for a bit. I've heard that this is normal and also that it isn't... If I were you I would just tighten the hell out of them again and watch for loosening.

Baube 02-15-07 10:36 PM

if the hockeyteeth's solution didn't solve your problem, I wonder if the taper of the spindle is the same as the crank's one.


is both of your crank loose?

danish 02-15-07 10:37 PM

german torque specs: gootentite.

humancongereel 02-16-07 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by hockeyteeth
Sometimes the cranks loosen on the spindle after you initially tighten them and ride for a bit. I've heard that this is normal and also that it isn't... If I were you I would just tighten the hell out of them again and watch for loosening.

+1. for about a week i carried a crank wrench with me to tighten the bolts after rides. longer than i needed to, but it gave me peace of mind to tighten the things down.

sac02 02-16-07 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by Baube
if the hockeyteeth's solution didn't solve your problem, I wonder if the taper of the spindle is the same as the crank's one.

I am a little worried about this; I read a little about it and it was always in the back of my mind when I put the bike together. I could never get a definative answer whether or not the bulletproof cranks and campy spindle had the same taper. They seemed to fit together ok, but I don't know how "poor" the fit should be if they are incompatible. Would it have been grossly obvious if they were?

Mac

AfterThisNap 02-16-07 04:29 AM

Bulletproof and Campy don't mix. The damage won't be obvious until after a few hundred miles.



Originally Posted by sac02
I am a little worried about this; I read a little about it and it was always in the back of my mind when I put the bike together. I could never get a definative answer whether or not the bulletproof cranks and campy spindle had the same taper. They seemed to fit together ok, but I don't know how "poor" the fit should be if they are incompatible. Would it have been grossly obvious if they were?

Mac


tellyho 02-16-07 07:24 AM

Torque = tight as hell.

GetOutOfNJ 02-16-07 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Baube
is both of your crank loose?

all your base are belong to us

How about a spindle beer can shim? that's one of those things that I've always thought to try, but never actually done, because I can't imagine it working. But I'd like to know.

fixedpip 02-16-07 09:34 AM

Torque values for crank bolts are manufacturer specific. Pretty much need at least 300 inch/pounds and most are spec'd higher than that.

Theres some basic values here:
http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=88

sac02 02-16-07 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by AfterThisNap
Bulletproof and Campy don't mix. The damage won't be obvious until after a few hundred miles.

Damn.

The problem is fixed for the moment. I torqued both crank bolts to 32.5 ft-lbs.

Also: when I got down there to really inspect things as I did the crank bolts, I noticed the adjustable side of the BB cup had come loose, about an eighth of a turn. The cranks were a little loose, but it turns out I was also feeling a little play in the BB itself. So that is now also fixed, we'll see how long it all lasts.

Mac

humancongereel 02-16-07 12:52 PM

damn, should've read the OP more closely.

Rattlebag 02-16-07 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by danish
german torque specs: gootentite.

Achtung! Keine Gebulletproof Crankentorquen mit die Campenbotzombrachet! Geblinkenflashen und Gespitzensparken!


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