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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 02-17-07, 01:44 AM   #1
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First fixed-gear ride today

Well, my first fixed ride was today. I had been waiting for the bike to show up. It's a Specialized Langster Pro with a handful of upgrades that I won for dirt cheap on Ebay last week. Yes I know Specialized is equivalent to Satan around here but I don't care all that much since the price I paid was worth it for the components alone. I had planned on replacing the frame and fork with an IRO Mark V but now that I received and rode it, I'm not so sure.. this thing is a hoot to ride and seems to weigh less than air itself.

The major changes over a stock Langster Pro were the Specialized Pave carbon seatpost (awesome post!!), Specialized Alias saddle, and Deda 215 Classic Bend bars. Right away, I put some white wrap over the bare bars, changed the factory 16T cog to a 19T Surly (48x19 now), and added a Dura-Ace lockring. Can you believe the owner before me was riding without a lockring altogether?? The stem was also using too few spacers and was quite loose so I added a small spacer to tighten that up as well. It arrived without pedals so I bolted on a pair of MKS GR-9s too.

This thing is GREAT. I had been wanting a single/fixed bike for a while and now I can see what I've been missing. I was skeptical before today but I'm already hooked. It has been a long time since I've had so much fun riding a bike. Not only was it faaaarrrr less scary than I expected but it's far easier to ride regardless of road inclines than I had expected. I'm also shocked at how light this thing is. It has to be under 15lbs. I was expecting a "harsh aluminum ride" but it's just not there. The thing is smooth as silk... easily less harsh than my Surly Cross-Check.

Long story short... I'm keeping this bike for sure. SUCH fun.


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Old 02-17-07, 03:40 AM   #2
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Specialized is good ****, your whip is tight, I dig. Aluminum is great, not some sort of modern bike equivalent of 1960s shock-therapy for insanity. Entirely possible, also, that the previous owner was riding track only, which would make the lockring generally superfluous although not a bad idea.
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Old 02-17-07, 10:35 AM   #3
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Langster Comps look like tons of fun and are pretty light. Everytime I see one in the LBS, I wanna take it out for a test ride.
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Mark V would be a step down from this unless you hafta hafta hafta have steel. Get a brake or don't ride in traffic until you really know what you're doing. Being dead sucks.
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why the hell would you replace a lovely bicycle like that with a mark v? to see if the guys at love park will stop sneering at you? trust me, that wont happen whatever you do.





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Old 02-17-07, 05:44 PM   #6
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why the hell would you replace a lovely bicycle like that with a mark v? to see if the guys at love park will stop sneering at you? trust me, that wont happen whatever you do.
I had wanted to do that before I actually received it and saw that it's a decent bike. I was afraid of denting up those thin aluminum tubes while locking it up around the city but we'll see. I was also afraid of the ride sucking but it's really, really not bad. I don't know what everyone's talking about, honestly. I think the 'harsh aluminum' thing is a myth.

Also, there are no drillings for brakes, front or back. I'm still considering just replacing that fork and buying brakes, though. So far, I've ridden it all over Philly and had zero problems though.. Maybe I'm just a quick learner. I'm definitely not a graceful expert at the whole brakeless thing but it's really straightforward so far. Now I think I want to replace those bars with Nitto RB-018s because I just hate the drop hand position but want something a bit further forward at times.

Oh and my driveline is pretty loud. I measured the chainline and it was something like 42mm front and 50mm rear so I flipped that Surly cog around that calculated out to nearly perfectly matching up the chainline... except at that point, it was even louder and you could then actually SEE the chain being pulled to the side of the cogs front and back from the chainline being so far off. wtf mate? I just need someone who isn't also an idiot to look at this for me. All the noise seems to be coming from the rear so maybe that new cog just needs to wear a bit and work its way in? Dunno...

Think I'mma wrap the decals (that are under the clearcoat.. son of a..) in white tape or something since crackheads that steal bikes to sell for... crack.. probably recognize the "Specialized" brand and I want to make it the ugliest, most bland target ever for them.
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Langster Comps look like tons of fun and are pretty light. Everytime I see one in the LBS, I wanna take it out for a test ride.
The only thing I didn't like was the factory setup of 48x16T gearing.. too tall for a new fixed rider. Oh, and switching 1/8" cogs with a 3/32" chain whip.... fun. Knuckles beware!

I'm happy so far, considering I picked it up for less than I could buy a basic Fuji Track for.
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how much did you win it for?

do stock lang comps come with 75s?
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how much did you win it for?

do stock lang comps come with 75s?
The Langster Comps still come with Sugino 75s, yes. They don't come with Dura Ace hubs and Mavic Open Pro rims like these Langster Pros did, though. Shame. Ehh I won it for $485 which I didn't think was too bad considering the original $1300 price plus the upgrades the previous owner installed. Hope I did well.
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not bad at all

langster pros come with DA hubs? DAMN
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Old 02-17-07, 08:03 PM   #11
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langster pros come with DA hubs? DAMN
Yeah they do. I think the seller shot himself in the foot by listing it as just a "Specialized Langster" and not a "Pro" model. I knew it was a Langster Pro by the color and the fact I could faintly see the "Pro" decal on the top tube in the Ebay Photos, though. I feel good about the transaction.

It's like my Surly Cross-check.. I got a great deal on it because it ended at night in the seller's hometown.... in Alaska. That meant it was the wee hours of the morning here which meant no one bid on it and I won it for the minimum reserve price of $500 even though the specs list read fairly impressive.. Full Shimano XT groupo, Ultegra hubs, Mavic Open Pro rims, fenders, three sets of tires and tubes, rear rack, etc. Photo of it in my signature. I love Ebay deals...
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Sick ride. The photo's kind of cool too since the snow almost matches the frame. Too bad it's dirty snow.
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Im not usually a fan of the Langster but the white looks really really good!
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The other thing I want to say in favor of the Langster is about its controversial compact geometry design. It may not look as elegant as a traditional-geometry steel frame but it works REALLY well for someone with a jacked-up body like me. See, I have shorter legs and a longer torso which means bikes that fit my upper body have a standover height that's way too high and bikes that fit the standover height are generally too small for my upper body. That sloping top tube is a blessing for me, though.

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Im not usually a fan of the Langster but the white looks really really good!
Yeah I agree. I was thinking of replacing the rims with white Velocity Deep Vs like this one has in its 2nd photo but then decided to keep the Open Pros for weight and money savings over the subjective aesthetic value of the Vs. Also, thanks!
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Sick ride. The photo's kind of cool too since the snow almost matches the frame. Too bad it's dirty snow.
In the city, all snow is very, very.... very dirty. And thanks
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42mm front and 50mm rear .
daaaaaamn....
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I'm measuring something wrong because that simply can't be true...
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that seems sort of weird, yeah. how's the dish and spacing of the wheel? sometimes that'll be just a tad bit off...but flipping the cog sounded like a good idea. except it didn't really seem to work. have you tried flipping it back and remeasuring it? if "fixing" it made it worse, maybe you oughta pursue the problem in the original setup and see if that helps you out. sometimes the drivetrain will also be noisy because of chain tension and the sound of the links hitting the teeth of the cogs.
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that seems sort of weird, yeah. how's the dish and spacing of the wheel? sometimes that'll be just a tad bit off...but flipping the cog sounded like a good idea. except it didn't really seem to work. have you tried flipping it back and remeasuring it? if "fixing" it made it worse, maybe you oughta pursue the problem in the original setup and see if that helps you out. sometimes the drivetrain will also be noisy because of chain tension and the sound of the links hitting the teeth of the cogs.
Well I did re-flip it and the chain seemed immediately straighter, visibly. I mean you could see how crooked it was when it was flipped even though I measured it as though it should have been straighter. This is hard... haha.

For now, it's fine as it is back in the original configuration.
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Natron,

Nice score, bro. I recently got the '07 Specialized Langster myself. I'm hoping you enjoy that bike as much as I'm enjoying mine. My only gripe about it is the crappy wheelset they put on mine.... Alexrims 500. You probably don't have that problem with the pro, but I needed a single speed because I guess I'm a wuss. Cheers!
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