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Old 02-19-07, 08:56 PM   #1
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29er Frame with 26" Wheels...

I have been considering getting a 29er frame to build as a FG.

I read where 26" wheels won't work with some or a 29er frame.

Why would that be so?

Does anyone ride a 29er, that can tell me why?

I would like to use 26er wheels with it.
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Old 02-19-07, 08:57 PM   #2
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Why Why Why Why Why? If you are buying a new frame, buy one for the right sized wheels.

If you went disc brakes you could use 26" wheels, but not with Vs.
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If you want to use 26" wheels, why not just use a good old 26er frame? It's not like they're scarce.
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Because because because!!!

Just to have a different setup!

For variety!

For me!
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Enjoy the pedal strike.
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I hate to crush your dreams, but you're not making any sense.

If you really want to be unique, you should find a nice 29er frame and use some 20" bmx wheels on it. That'll show all those slavish function devotees who's boss!
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If you want to use 26" wheels, why not just use a good old 26er frame? It's not like they're scarce.
I have a 26er frame. It's a typical MTB setup.

It would kinda look like a motocross, but a FG bike!

Is that so bad?
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If you're riding it fixed, it's an awful idea. If you're coasting, it's only a very very bad idea.

Pedal strike is almost inevitable. Handling's gonna be wacky. You'd better hope you're using disc brakes, because rim brakes aren't going to line up right.

Other than that, I'm sure it'll be great.
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OK, that's all I wanted to know!
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Bottom bracket height. Using 26" wheels on a 29er frame is a very bad idea.... Imagine how much lower your cranks arms will be to the ground
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I read that BB height would actually be higher. I have to go back and look for that.
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Because because because!!!

Just to have a different setup!

For variety!

For me!
Because you like smacking the pedals on the ground whenever you turn?

If you're running disks it will always "work". Anything else, and it will never work. Work, in this case, meaning that you can ride and stop your ill-conceived contraption, enjoy the points and snickers, and feel special about successfully asserting your independence.
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I read that BB height would actually be higher. I have to go back and look for that.
How could that be possible?
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yeah, 29ers are 622mm. 26ers are 559mm. significant drop.
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I read that BB height would actually be higher. I have to go back and look for that.
Absolutely not. It is lower on the frame to maintain the same relative position after being raised by the higher axle height of the 29" wheels.
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So it would work with 700c's like Deep-V's... but you wouldn't be able to put beefier tires on it, right?

Cyclocross tires can be used... are there cyclocross-specific rims?
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a bike with too small a wheel(s)...


is not near as fun as a bike with the wheel(s) too large


just saying from my experience...
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The difference in BB height would be 31.5mm or about 1.25".

How about Half and Half? AKA a 69er or a 96er.
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So it would work with 700c's like Deep-V's... but you wouldn't be able to put beefier tires on it, right?

Cyclocross tires can be used... are there cyclocross-specific rims?

29er = 700c. You could put any road/track wheels on a 29er and get reasonably big tires on there, but WTF for? The only reason to run a 29er is to roll over big stuff, otherwise it's just a bike with wheels that are too big and too heavy.
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So it would work with 700c's like Deep-V's... but you wouldn't be able to put beefier tires on it, right?

Cyclocross tires can be used... are there cyclocross-specific rims?
i recall reading somewhere that deep v's were in fact originally cyclocross rims.

i've got 35mm knobbies on my deep v's and they're plenty beefy.
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I have been considering getting a 29er frame to build as a FG.

I read where 26" wheels won't work with some or a 29er frame.
Let me explain this to you, because it really sounds like you don't know what you are talking about.

A regular mountain bike has what are referred to as 26" wheels. They are smaller than road/track wheels, but the rims are wider so they work better with wider tires. Wide tires make the rough stuff softer for your butt.

A 29'er is a special kind of mountain bike, it's rims are the same diameter as road wheels, but the rims are usually wider, so they can work well with wider tires. Wide tires for MTBs = good.

The difference between a bike built for 29" wheels and a bike built for 26" wheels is the length of the stays, the length of the fork, and various other angles. However, the handlebar and the seat and bottom bracket (pedals) are usually in roughly the same spot for the same sized rider. They want the same person to feel comfortable on the same sized bikes, even if they have different wheels.

Back when 29'ers were first getting started, using cyclocross rims (and tires) was the norm. Nowadays, with the advent of the 2.3 and 2.5 inch 29'er tire, wider rims are available and necessary. There is no reason to use a weaker CX style rim for them.

Please, let me know if that isn't clear enough or if you have any other questions.
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I have been considering getting a 29er frame to build as a FG.

I read where 26" wheels won't work with some or a 29er frame.

Why would that be so?

Does anyone ride a 29er, that can tell me why?

I would like to use 26er wheels with it.
Having gotten my Gary Fisher Aquila back, I can only say the 69er setup rocks! The bigger front wheel rolls faster and the smaller rear wheel just follows through. Its not a true 29er but I'm convinced now the half-breed concept is here to stay.
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