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Old 02-19-07, 10:53 PM   #1
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Advantages of Oversized Stem?

is there anything to gain over having a 31 stem size over 26? i am looking into these bars but want to know b4 i give in. http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/detail...=DEDAHBAP1200#
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you won't be able to use anything but oversized XC bars/ those bars which is a bummer if you change up bars a lot. the nitto rb21s are similar and use a standard 26 stem
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so more power when jamming on the pedals and pulling on bar?
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deda makes and os bullhorn called the akros profile also make a os bull horn I like my os bars for the stiffness and I have big hands it makes the ride more comfy
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deda makes and os bullhorn called the akros profile also make a os bull horn I like my os bars for the stiffness and I have big hands it makes the ride more comfy
okay thanks. i have kinda big hands as well. i thinkin of using the threadless stem adapter to go OS on the bars that way i have a better choice of stems too.
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I like thomson personally
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yea im goin for the Akros. there seems to be alotta hand combos for it. the rb-009s are good on the flats but when it comes to mashing or climbing there's not enough flat space on the drops to be comfy.
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okay thanks. i have kinda big hands as well. i thinkin of using the threadless stem adapter to go OS on the bars that way i have a better choice of stems too.
If you are using a 31.8 bar for stiffness, using it on a threadless stem is a wasted effort. Just sayin'.
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If you are using a 31.8 bar for stiffness, using it on a threadless stem is a wasted effort. Just sayin'.
why so? i found them in 26 that i think i may get now because its more universal.
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why so? i found them in 26 that i think i may get now because its more universal.

I think he meant threaded. The stem/headtube junction is the weak link in any threaded setup. The only reason to switch to OS is if you already have the bars. If you want stiffness get a modern fork.
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I think he meant threaded. The stem/headtube junction is the weak link in any threaded setup. The only reason to switch to OS is if you already have the bars. If you want stiffness get a modern fork.
would a threadless stem adapter be a wise choice to get a stiffer handle? i know that threadless it is better in finding a good fit for a bike.
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probably not just get a 1" threadless for spicer has em for a decent price as does performance and carbon even
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would a threadless stem adapter be a wise choice to get a stiffer handle? i know that threadless it is better in finding a good fit for a bike.

It's the fork that matters not the end of the stem. A threadless adapter still sticks inside the steerer tube and expands somehow that is the weak point of a any threaded setup. If you really want stiff you have to replace the fork with a threadless one.
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if you have a threaded stem, can u just cut off the threads and go threadless stem ?
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I think he meant threaded. The stem/headtube junction is the weak link in any threaded setup. The only reason to switch to OS is if you already have the bars. If you want stiffness get a modern fork.
Yeah, sorry for messing up the thread.

Threaded stems = pretty floppy. OS bars = stiff. Stiff + Floppy = floppy.
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if you have a threaded stem, can u just cut off the threads and go threadless stem ?
If your fork steerer is super long, yeah, you can do that. But most threaded forks only stick up a cm or 2 at the most past the headset, and a threadless fork needs to stick up about an inch past the headset. If you cut off the threads, a threaded fork probably won't stick up past it at all.
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having recently grabbed and tugged OS deda pista bars, and ridden plenty on my cinelli criterium/1A setup, i'd chime in first hand with the really significant stiffness difference.

any new bike i get would be threadless (if i were getting a new bike, for which i have no specific plans other than to get a geared tourer in time for the vacation i'll eventually take), no doubt about it. but for the kind of riding i do, i really don't mind the flex i experience with my threaded setup. so i'm not about to buy a whole new fork and whatnot.
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thanks. im not about to drop some $ on a new fork just for stiffness. I MAY go for the adapter but i'll think about it. thanks again all
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what I think performance has a kit for around a hundred carbon fork hs spacers and all you add bars and stem and rock and roll
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Just to pipe in, like queerpunk i have bikes w. threaded/fg and threadless/geared setups. Threadless is definitely way stiffer but I don't notice it in practice because i don't really pull on the bars too much.
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