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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 05-15-03, 02:07 PM   #1
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Fixed Gear bikes..

I've been scouring for a fixed gear, doing my research etc. So far none of my LBS carry fixed gear bikes. One shop guy looked at me like I was crazy when I said they look like fun.

So I have a few options, find a old bike and convert it.. or buy a new one. The two new ones that are fairly inexpensive are the Bianchi Pista and the Fuji Track. Anyone have any experience with these? and what is your opinion?

From the spec's it looks like the Bianchi has better components..
I have a set of brakes and levers so putting a front brake on is not a problem.
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Old 05-15-03, 03:05 PM   #2
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I haven't riden either, but from the geometry, I suspect that the Fuji would be the better choice for a road fix. It's gemetry is more like a fast road bike and the Bianchi is a steep track geometry.

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Old 05-15-03, 03:17 PM   #3
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there's one more option if you want a new affordable fixed gear, the KHS Flite 100.
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Old 05-15-03, 04:17 PM   #4
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What is your opinion on the KHS Flite 100? Seems to be in the same price range..Is the geometry more like a road bike?
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Old 05-15-03, 05:18 PM   #5
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yeah. all three are basically pretty similar. neither the KHS, Fuji, or Bianchi really are true track geometries, so they'll all have good road manners. i think the Fuji is probably the most road-friendly of the lot, and i believe the lightest. the KHS never really did anything for me while i was looking for a bike to buy.

i suppose if i had to rank them it'd be Bianchi, Fuji, KHS. i only put the bianchi first because i have a bit of an affinity for them. really it's tied with the fuji.
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Old 05-15-03, 06:49 PM   #6
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I like the paint job on the Fuji the best, but the Bianchi seems to come with a better wheelset. Geometr is not radicaly different between the Fuji and Bianchi... hmmm tough decision
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I have ridden the Pista and liked it. With the Pista and probably the others you will need to change the gearing (It is very tall for street) and add a brake. I know the Pista fork is drilled for the brake.
You will enjoy the process of sourcing up the used stuff to build one from scratch tho. It is silly, but I really have a lot of pride in the old bike I ressurected and I feel it every time I happen to turn and see it hanging up at work or take it out for a spin.
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Old 05-18-03, 02:57 AM   #8
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There is another option, that being getting a Surly frame and building a fixed around the "Steamroller" it's a great frame, and made for fixed gear.

Myself, I like getting old stuff and working with it. All my fixies have been old, found on a trash pile, bikes. They are old clunky steel, but when you take the weight off of them, deraillures, brakes, freewheels, you get a very cool bike. Steel is such a nice ride. I do have an old Cannondale Al frame, it's fun, but boy does it vibrate.

If you are looking at fixing and old bike look for ones with horizontal rear drops, rather than the vertical kind. With the horizontal you can utalize a flip/flop hub and run a taller gear on one side, or run a freewheel on one side, in case you want to laze back home. I prefer running like a 16 on one side and a 20 on the other, that way I can go smaller if I gett too tired for the big gear, or encounter wind or weather.
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Old 05-18-03, 04:39 PM   #9
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I own a 2003 pista and I think that it is a great bike. I bought it with the intent of using it on the rollers over the winter but when the weather turned warm I had no problem taking it on the group rides around town. It is a really fun bike and it is a solid package from the factory - very well spec'd. I have not changed the gearing and Southwest Missouri is fairly hilly so you will probably be ok for most riding. I actually like the geometry a lot, just as much as my regular road bike.

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Old 06-13-03, 05:28 PM   #10
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I bougt a 2002 Fuji steel track bike new.I put brakes on it.I think at that time it was the least expensive new track bike on the market.It does handle a little more like a road bike.In fact in hard cornering it handles better than my Litespeed.
(sigh)..It handles extremely well, It is easy to handle and steady when leaned over to the limit.Beter than any of my other bikes.I bought it thinking I would use it as a townie for short trips,but I use a lot more than that.There are plenty of other good new track bikes out there too.
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Does anyone have any opinion or knowledge about the Olmo Gara Pista (http://www.bikecult.com/works/sales/olmopistaframe.html)? I'm seriously considering one, they're soooooo pretty and frame/fork is around $500-$600 USD.

I've also been looking into the Gunnar Street Dog but that is another $400 for the frame/fork combo. Anyone have any information on either? I have heard nothing but excellent things about ths GSD but I've never heard a thing about the OGP.

Then again, if I'm going to get a Gunnar I might as well go with a Vanilla Bicycle (http://www.vanillabicycles.com). They are sooooo pretty. But on the other hand, Gunnar is part of Waterford and Waterford is known for their amazing bicycles...

Anyway, thanks in advance!
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Does anyone have any opinion or knowledge about the Olmo Gara Pista
My buddy, Ginz, owns one.....ask him here:
http://www.tc-homes.com/bike/forum/f...s/ginzberg.htm
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Thanks a bunch George!
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What about the http://www.bikecult.com/works/sales/cinelliotf.html For a few hundred more and if you really want to go upscale, you could hunt down a Colnago Master Pista or Dream Pista. I think they're around $1300.00 The Dream is almost too pretty to ride.
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Old 06-16-03, 11:01 AM   #15
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I'm sort of intrigued by Vanilla Bicycles. I'd never heard of them before but they look really good. What are some other custom frame builders' sites who build track bikes?

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fairly recently, i purchased a fuji track bike, and i'm very happy with my new steed. I'd considered the bianchi, but there was a wait on new pistas in my size at the time, and i felt impatient. plus, i preferred the geometry of the fuji, and i like the fact that it's drilled front and back for brakes, which allows for more options for the bike down the line. (if i ever want to use, say, a freewheel or an internally geared hub in the future. not likely, but options are good.)

i didnt get a chance to look at the khs, as there arent any local dealers.

from a practical standpoint, i've yet to add a rear brake to my fuji, and i NEVER use the freewheel on the flipflop hub. so, i havent really taken advantage of the rear-brake option.

if ya wanna buy a more expensive frameset, and then build a bike around it, you'll spend more money. still, that gunnar street dog looks nice, with the 853 and massive clearance for fenders/fat tires, etc. this is no track bike; it's a very practical ss/fg commuter/all-purpose bike, and it looks to be a nice one. still, if you're gonna build the bike yourself (and buying frames from gunnar, surly, vanilla, etc will require you or your shop to do so), you might as well save some cash and get a very cool old frame with horizontal drops. imo, this is the better way to go. if you need a fixie asap, buy one of the cheaper complete bikes from bianchi, fuji, or khs. (i needed a bike asap, as mine had just been stolen, and i neednt transportation right away. no time to build up an old frame.)

anyway, just my $.02: i love my fuji track, and it's held up very well, wheelset and all. (imo, the wheelset is very nice, and i'm heavy, with no problems!) i dont see anything wrong with the bianchi or the khs, except that riding a bianchi pista 'round here is likely to get you heckled by the cyclo-snobs(but not by me.)

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I like the Bianchi best out of those 3, it rides fast and feels tight. The Fuji has some cheap, flexy parts on it and personally I hate the paint job. The KHS has a heavy, chunky feel to it. The Sugino cranks don't make up for the crappy headset and wheels.

I see a lot of bikeworks-built Olmos around, they're nice. You could also get a Benotto or DeBernardi for the same $. If you get a chance to drop by bikeworks (www.bikecult.com) check out the Nagasawa track bike... beautiful...
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I got the Bianchi DISSS... Awesome bike, very light and fun!
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what's with the bianchi diss? i hear about it a lot...
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I just rode the Van Dessel. I think it was called the Country Road Bob. Weird name but a cool bike.

For $699 you get a nice light bike, flip flop hub and a carbon fork. This was the first unconverted fixie I've ever riden but it was a blast.

Van Dessel's can be ordered directly from their web site.
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One of these days...


http://www.gios.it/cgi/pista.php?lang=eng&page=frame

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Grunk:

Independent Fabrication Bikes (Somerville, MA) doesn't make any track frames, but they are willing to put horizontal dropouts on any of their other frames free of charge.

www.ifbikes.com

Nice frames, in my opinion.

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Regarding other custom framebuilders who do track frames: Strawberry Bicycles http://www.strawberrybicycle.com . Oddly enough, this guy is in Portland, OR, too, just like Vanilla Bicycles. If someone would start up Chocolate, they could join together and be Neapolitan. He's been building frames for like 30 years or something.
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Regarding other custom framebuilders who do track frames: Strawberry Bicycles http://www.strawberrybicycle.com . Oddly enough, this guy is in Portland, OR, too, just like Vanilla Bicycles. If someone would start up Chocolate, they could join together and be Neapolitan. He's been building frames for like 30 years or something.
I was checking out this guy's web site. I like his work a lot. It looks like he puts a little extra in to his frames. Doesn't seem to show prices though. I wonder how affordable a custom track frame from him is?

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What I love about us bike geeks is this: This thread started with someone asking about a cheap, $500 fixie. We're now all seriously thinking about whether he can afford a Cinelli Olympic Track bike or a Vanilla! Gotta love it!

I say feh!

Get yourself a Seven with Track fork ends for $3000 and call it a day. It will be a better bike then the Fuji!
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