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    Road Bike vs. Track Bike

    I'm new to fixed gears but I'm already in love. I have a road fixie that I've been riding for a while, but it's too small for me. I mostly use the bike to commute to work and it isn't very hilly. I'm thinking about getting a track frame (De Bernardi Thron Track). Any thoughts on Road Conversion vs. Track? I come from a BMX background and don't have any real experience with either.


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    the track frame will have a steeper, more aggressive geometry to it. also, you can forget about trying to fit any sort of fender on if you ride in the rain.

    track frames also are quite twitchy if you're not used to them, because of the steeper angles.

    i rode a converted road bike for a few months before buying my Surly Steamroller, which can best be described as a mix of a track frame and a road frame. that suits me perfectly, since i use the bike for commuting as well as track racing.
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    i'd be wary of a real track frame if i was planning to ride it on the street. the ones i've seen typically don't make it easy to mount brakes and route brake cables, and those are handy to have outside the velodrome.

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    handy, yes. necessary? i suppose they help. i don't use any.

    besides, if you're going to use brakes on a fixed gear, all you really need is a front brake. it's not hard to find a fork that'll accept a brake. and there are no issues trying to run a brake cable/housing to a front brake.
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    Originally posted by fore
    handy, yes. necessary? i suppose they help. i don't use any.
    I suppose it's a matter of taste and where you live. Around San Francisco, you'd have to be quite a bit more macho than I am not to run at least a front brake.

    Of course, my fixie's a little odd. Flat bars, front bmx brake, and a massive full metal basket. Funny thing, though, nobody tries to steal it.

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    I think I've settled on a Bianchi Pista. Its cheap, doesn't have water bottle braze ons, and gives me enough extra parts to put together another bike in the future. The geometry doesn't seem quite as steep as track geometry too.

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    Grunk.......here's my track bike to road fixie conversion. Steeper angles but not as twichy as I thought compared to my other bikes with relaxed angles.

    http://www.tc-homes.com/bike/forum/fg-bikes/leakos3.htm
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    George.

    Nice bike. If nothing else, track bikes look so elegant. Nice moustache bars.

    cory

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    This may or may not be an issue, but I will throw it out here anyway. At harriscyclery.com some of the track hubs are specifically NOT recommended for road use because they are not designed for the pounding a road wheel gets. They are designed for a nice smooth track. This raises the question in my mind whether true track frames are designed to take the beating of road riding. I'm just askin'. My fixie is an old high quality lugged steel 10-speed frame that I could probably take off road.
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    Rainman......you're right, in fact some track hub manufacturers are starting to include a disclaimer regarding use of their products outside of the tracks since fixed gear riding is gaining popularity and there have been some instances where the hub flange completely shattered. I guess one would assume this may be true with track frames to a certain extent as well. I'm not a heavy rider and I don't do any wild stunts so I'm really not particularly concerned. Two of my fixies are track frames with track hubs and I've had no problems. A few messengers I have spoken with who ride track bike conversions have never encountered problems either. And these guys ride rough and some thrash their bikes. My question regarding track frames is why wouldn't they build them just as tough as any road frame? Manufacturers know the torque some of these trackies put out require the strongest of frames.

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    Track frames for road are often identical to roadie's cept for horizontal dropouts....Im talking fuji track,bianchi pista here.Others worth mentioning would be gunnar street dog,surly steamroller,and soma rush....these framesets are made to be on the street.They have slightly more relaxed angles...they can be raced however w/o a prob.For all out track racing yes,you'd want a real trackbike.The frames themselves are usually quite strong,you'll break spokes and mess up wheels before you'll tweak a frame....on any of em.

    As far as hubs go....if you skid alot and do lots of stopping/starting you can expect a catastrophic rear hub failure after around 20,000 miles.It may come long after that.....but it will happen,and when it does it aint gonna be pretty.Best defense against it use a high flange meaty rear hub and spend the $$ to get a good one,dont run huge tires,and keep skidding to a minimum.

    As far as old road frames being converted...often an excellent way to go for street riding.Its a cheap and effective way to go fixed.When properly set up,they can be raced too.

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    Originally posted by horndude
    Its a cheap and effective way to go fixed.When properly set up,they can be raced too.
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