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Old 01-11-12, 05:03 PM   #876
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Here It is, my one and only bike at the moment. Even though I have no fenders, I think it qualifies. The rack holds my weight and possibly more.

EDIT: I weigh 130lbs. the ratio is 46/15 but I usually ride on flat city streets.

by the way, if you have access to aguardiente , give it a try.
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qualifies!

wald bugle bungee schwinn bars...
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Love that ride cc. That horn is Gnarly
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Old 01-13-12, 07:32 AM   #881
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I don't think you quite get the point of this thread.
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Educate me. It looks a lot like the second and third bikes in this thread. I ride it around town. Usually Saturday and Sunday morning.

If I put on a Brooks, is it magically a townie?
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well lets be fair, a lot of people don't get the point of this thread. it's really turned into a very loose definition here. that said, just because it's ridden leisurely around town does not a "townie" make. a townie is DESIGNED to be leisurely, not just ridden that way.

this is the SSFG forum, so your bike should generally be one of those things, i.e. not have multiple gears. if it does, awesome, but it belongs in another forum.

to me, the main requirement for a townie is swept back bars. beyond that there should be a significant splattering of the following things (though not all are required). leather saddle, sprung saddle, leather grips, bell, cup holders aplenty (bonus points for if on the bars), relaxed geometry, upright riding position, fenders, chain guard, gumwall tires, baskets (esp up front), no foot retention.

basically don't stray too far from this
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The only thing mine hits on would be leather saddle, fenders, and no foot retention...

But I do have both front and rear racks, a bell, bigger tires, dual brakes... and of course bags aplenty.

Are you calling my version of the "townie" not a townie, and if so...what would you call it?
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well lets be fair, a lot of people don't get the point of this thread. it's really turned into a very loose definition here. that said, just because it's ridden leisurely around town does not a "townie" make. a townie is DESIGNED to be leisurely, not just ridden that way.

this is the SSFG forum, so your bike should generally be one of those things, i.e. not have multiple gears. if it does, awesome, but it belongs in another forum.

to me, the main requirement for a townie is swept back bars. beyond that there should be a significant splattering of the following things (though not all are required). leather saddle, sprung saddle, leather grips, bell, cup holders aplenty (bonus points for if on the bars), relaxed geometry, upright riding position, fenders, chain guard, gumwall tires, baskets (esp up front), no foot retention.

basically don't stray too far from this
Errrrmmmm no offense, but your example is about as far down the townie spectrum as the things you're complaining about. It just looks like a modern factory line version to imitate the style.. and yes I'm aware I'm one the "bar" offenders.. but that's about my only offense, till someone trades me noodlebars or something that fits my stem clamp?
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The only thing mine hits on would be leather saddle, fenders, and no foot retention...

But I do have both front and rear racks, a bell, bigger tires, dual brakes... and of course bags aplenty.

Are you calling my version of the "townie" not a townie, and if so...what would you call it?
The only issue I see with yours is it's posted in this forum.. however should this forum really have a show off your townies thread? Most townies are 3 speeds. (I am not advocating pulling this thread, I dig it. Just proving a point)
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Are you calling my version of the "townie" not a townie, and if so...what would you call it?
i was more addressing EnzoRWD's comment of "educate me" than calling out anyone's bike.

these are all somewhat subjective assessments... but i would call yours a tourer over a townie. it's definitely capable of putting in some serious miles and overnight trips.
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Errrrmmmm no offense, but your example is about as far down the townie spectrum as the things you're complaining about. It just looks like a modern factory line version to imitate the style.. and yes I'm aware I'm one the "bar" offenders.. but that's about my only offense, till someone trades me noodlebars or something that fits my stem clamp?
yes, the picture i posted is a factory line townie, made by specialized. i really don't understand how that makes a difference at all. "imitate the style?" what does that mean? a "townie" has never been defined as a home-made bike. nowhere has it ever been said that a "townie" or any other bike, save for a "frankenbike" cannot be a mass-produced item. a townie is a townie, regardless of whether it was made by a global corporation or a 16 year old kid in his dad's garage. there are companies that solely build townies.
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yes, the picture i posted is a factory line townie, made by specialized. i really don't understand how that makes a difference at all. "imitate the style?" what does that mean? a "townie" has never been defined as a home-made bike. nowhere has it ever been said that a "townie" or any other bike, save for a "frankenbike" cannot be a mass-produced item. a townie is a townie, regardless of whether it was made by a global corporation or a 16 year old kid in his dad's garage. there are companies that solely build townies.
It lacks a soul, I never said they had to be home made either. But if we're qualifying by riding position bars/accessories.. why can't we take into account frame building method? (Those welds are ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) That crankset also bugs me.. I'm not trying to harp on you btw, just point out how subjective it really is in the eye of the beholder just like with the almost identical argument I got in the "Where's the cruiser forum thread" about the same type of rigid applications of the name.
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dude cmon. lacking a soul is not that bad. my fuji track pro lacks a soul but it's still pretty awesome.


and having a ss townie is just dumb around seattle, sf, or ... well maybe just those two places.
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that's not really how bikes are classified. "soul" maybe be a measure of worth or appeal or quality, but is not a means of classification. the same holds true of build quality or method. just because it may be a sh!tty townie doesn't mean it's not a townie. a $600 entry level road bike is still a "road bike" as much as a $25k custom carbon build is. it may not be as good, but whether it is a road bike or not depends on the frame, bars, wheels/tires, brakes, i.e the components, not the quality or aesthetic. a loaf of bread is still bread, whether it's walmart brand or artisan crafted at the local bakery.
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I define the "Townie" as a bike mostly built with spare parts that fills the following needs: Generally upright position, fun to ride and is not worth anything to a thief but worth a lot to you. Possible additions are the ability to carry stuff (mostly beer and/or groceries).
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^ i dig that.

"townie" isn't a category like road bike is a category.

townie is a category like 'fixie' is a category, or 'dirt jumper' is a category. it's a defining characteristic, a bike built for town... that fills those general needs.

there's no magic number of 'how upright' or 'how many gears' or the like, it's just gotta fulfill that purpose as its defining characteristic.

and 'having a soul' does not enter into it. the globe live is a townie. my nishiki century is a townie. it's how you fit it and what it has.
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waiting on my bb and calipers still. then the search a rack I can work with will begin
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^ i dig that.

"townie" isn't a category like road bike is a category.

townie is a category like 'fixie' is a category, or 'dirt jumper' is a category. it's a defining characteristic, a bike built for town... that fills those general needs.

there's no magic number of 'how upright' or 'how many gears' or the like, it's just gotta fulfill that purpose as its defining characteristic.

and 'having a soul' does not enter into it. the globe live is a townie. my nishiki century is a townie. it's how you fit it and what it has.
Soul was an improper term, but I can't help but notice you guys tend to agree with my point of view here...or at least in my mind you do. I guess what I should have said, is how can you call that modern production bike a townie and declare the others not! Meh eye of the beholder and what not I suppose.
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less talky more bikey
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no shot of getting these into this, is there?
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my quick release fenders don't go through the fork... if those are the same, you should have NO problem!
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well lets be fair, a lot of people don't get the point of this thread. it's really turned into a very loose definition here. that said, just because it's ridden leisurely around town does not a "townie" make. a townie is DESIGNED to be leisurely, not just ridden that way.

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to me, the main requirement for a townie is swept back bars. beyond that there should be a significant splattering of the following things (though not all are required). leather saddle, sprung saddle, leather grips, bell, cup holders aplenty (bonus points for if on the bars), relaxed geometry, upright riding position, fenders, chain guard, gumwall tires, baskets (esp up front), no foot retention.

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which do you have? most all QR seem to be black? I think these go through the fork
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