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Old 04-13-07, 07:49 AM   #1
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new Frame from Bens...... short people need not apply





holy steep and twitchy geo!

I want to ride one looks like fun......no short people need apply.

not baggin' on short people but look at the stand over height.

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Old 04-13-07, 08:09 AM   #2
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Beatiful, if i could afford it, and hadnt just bought a pista, Id be all over this
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Old 04-13-07, 08:12 AM   #3
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what's it made out of?
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I came across this frame last night. Only drawback is it's aluminum otherwise I'd be on it. They also have that White Gan Well Pro on there too that is way out of my price range. Any word on the MSRP of the Milwaukee track?
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Old 04-13-07, 08:23 AM   #5
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It has very thin tubes for an aluminum bike. I would not necessarily consider aluminum to be an automatic disadvantage.
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Old 04-13-07, 08:26 AM   #6
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Looks like a steel frame to me.
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Old 04-13-07, 08:30 AM   #7
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If you check out the Ben's site, they describe the tubing as "feeling like steel", so I just assumed. I agree it looks like steel in the photo.
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Old 04-13-07, 08:30 AM   #8
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That's a good looking bike. Good color, understated logo, lugged crown
fork, "aggressive" geometry. I dig it.
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Old 04-13-07, 08:46 AM   #9
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verus tubing is steel i think. looks like they just jacked the geometry from that ganwell they're selling. glad to see at least one frame out there for those of us with long legs and short torsos.
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brake holes? track frame? Seems like they should make it an option or no holes at all. Or maybe theyre just calling it a track frame to sell more of them.
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Old 04-13-07, 08:51 AM   #11
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Track frame in the sense that a Bianchi Pista is a track frame. It can be, but it doesn't have to be.
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Old 04-13-07, 08:52 AM   #12
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They straddle genres in general. Look at the Milwaukee Orange One... basically a steel path-rider single-speed.
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Old 04-13-07, 08:59 AM   #13
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Last time I checked brake holes didn't make something track geometry or not, and if not used, do not affect the handling of the bike in any way, nor the ability to ride it on the track
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I didnt say anything about the holes affecting the geometry. Where did you come up with that?
And having track geometry doesnt make it a track bike either.
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I didnt say anything about the holes affecting the geometry. Where did you come up with that?
And having track geometry doesnt make it a track bike either.

What does? Whether the specific bike is actually being ridden on a track?
I guess I am one of the few people here who have actually ridden track bikes then. And guess what some of them have had brakeholes.


Brake holes in no way prevent something from being a track bike, they just make is usuable off the track as well. Not including them on something you expect people to be riding around so that a few morons will think it's more *track* is idiotic.

This thing looks to be as much of a track bike as those old vitus things that are always popping up on ebay for cheap. I wouldn't buy it but I will refer to it as a track frame.
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track frame it shall be.
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Dropouts look stamped, not forged. Not a big deal but forged dropouts FTW!

Never heard of that tubing so not sure what the quality's like. Welds look pretty clean, pretty sure that's steel otherwise it would be some hella' thick aluminum tubing.

What are they asking?
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This thing looks to be as much of a track bike as those old vitus things that are always popping up on ebay for cheap. I wouldn't buy it but I will refer to it as a track frame.
Those old vitus aluminum frames were frightingly flexy. Hopefully, this will not repeat that.
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pretty sure that's steel otherwise it would be some hella' thick aluminum tubing.[/SIZE]
The site says its an aluminum frame.
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The Track Frame:
Personally designed by us here at the Milwaukee Bicycle Co., and with the help of Waterford Precision Cycles, the Cream City Track Frame consists of dynamic Verus tubing that has an ultimate tensile strength of 120 ksi, more than twice the strength of current aluminum alloys. True Temper incorporates a stress relieving process in the creation of Verus tubing which removes the residual stresses created in forming any tubing structure. The result of this is a higher life than standard annealed tubing, incredible stiffness, liveliness, low weight, and the "feel of steel."

Track riders will love the race tight geometry specifically designed for our debut track frame.

Rear dropouts are spaced to 120mm to fit the most up-to-date high-performance track components.

The Waterford Fork:
Fashioned from Reynolds seamless 4130 track blades with a classic “flat-top” investment cast crown and new laser cut drop-outs for added stiffness. A classic finish to a great package.

verus tubing is steel.
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The site says its an aluminum frame.
where? i see "the Cream City Track Frame consists of dynamic Verus tubing that has an ultimate tensile strength of 120 ksi, more than twice the strength of current aluminum alloys."

assuming it's using a current alloy as well, i'd assume they mean that it's not aluminum.

here's some info on verus tubing:
http://www.truetemper.com/performance_tubing/verus.asp
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where? i see "the Cream City Track Frame consists of dynamic Verus tubing that has an ultimate tensile strength of 120 ksi, more than twice the strength of current aluminum alloys."

assuming it's using a current alloy as well, i'd assume they mean that it's not aluminum.

here's some info on verus tubing:
http://www.truetemper.com/performance_tubing/verus.asp
Im sorry, yeah i see your point. They made it sound like it was aluminum. Atleast in my monkey brain.
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yeah, i was confused too. they don't come out and say that it's either steel or aluminum. thanks google.
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since it's made by Waterford and they only make steel frames. my guess would be steel.
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