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Old 04-14-07, 12:27 AM   #1
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Full suspension fixie? Do you think it's worth the hassle?

I'm tired of not shifting when i want to and having to deal with the hassle of shift adj. maintainance. i think im going to buy an ENO hub and call it a day. what yall think?
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Old 04-14-07, 12:31 AM   #2
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i dont see buying a eno hub for that bike

but if you want to

go for it

doesnt look like it sees dirt

so might as well be fixed

for hilarity if nothing else
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Old 04-14-07, 12:36 AM   #3
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Is this Mongoose generally ridden on trails or mostly on pavement? That would definitely influence the direction you could take with modifying this bike.
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pavement only. bought 2 years ago when i was new to biking so i didn't know the purposes of diff bikes. it looked tuff to ride the streets and went for it
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Old 04-14-07, 12:40 AM   #5
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haha, how annoying is it everytime you hit a bump and your rear suspension knocks your u-lock out of it's holster?
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that's why its in my bag now. i hit a bump one day and the holder shattered and dropped the lock. but lock is okay now
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Do it, if you've got the $$ it'd be definitely worth it for lolz alone and I bet it will roll like a freaking tank.
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**** it, experimentation's fun. If you got the bucks for an Eno, go for it.
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well they are down to $160 now but its alot just to get the bike "fixed." trying to get feedback on it use in the long run. i will already have a strong brake but the weight issue is what makes me think it won't be worth it. good for bad weather though and this thing may shine. hmmmm...????
* make that $140 not counting the discount with a performance bike code
** i just found this: http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...%2FRear%20Hubs
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Gyeswho,

This will not work very well. Since the bike is a modified 4-bar linkage, the chain length changes with suspension movement. Unless the pivot is around the BB (like the Kona A) the chain would take the load of the suspension compression, which I doubt it is strong enough to do.
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This will not work very well. Since the bike is a modified 4-bar linkage, the chain length changes with suspension movement. Unless the pivot is around the BB (like the Kona A) the chain would take the load of the suspension compression, which I doubt it is strong enough to do.
ooh man thanks alot! i never considered that's i'd be poppin chains left and right. o well it was nice to think it was possible. thanks again very much
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He's right about the suspension, Kona used to make the A frame for ss fs rigs but have discontinued it. Now your only option would be the Cowan DS. I was thinking about fixing one the other day, but definitely don't have the $850 to drop on a frame for a joke bike.
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Can't you just sell that bike? Full suspension bikes on pavement are like driving to work on a zamboni.
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Full suspension bikes on pavement are like driving to work on a zamboni.
It's raining, I'm healing from a crash, and feeling down. You made my day.
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Can't you just sell that bike? Full suspension bikes on pavement are like driving to work on a zamboni.
Craigslist

You're in the Bronx? You could sell that thing by monday.
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doesnt chain tension change as the rear suspension cycles through
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weve already gone over that
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You're in the Bronx? You could sell that thing by monday.
how much would you call for it? I don't want to sell cuz its a grad gift
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If you're not set on fixed, you could always convert to SS and use your derailleur to keep chain tension.
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If you're not set on fixed, you could always convert to SS and use your derailleur to keep chain tension.
yea i guess your right. good suggestion. man i think one day i def want to experiment to see what its like
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the suspension pivot looks really close to the bottom bracket, only about 3cm away. Just did a quick bit of geometry and I think that if the wheel travelled up by 4cm, the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle would only change by about 2.2mm. When the chain is wearing on my bike, if I leave it for a time without being bothered it can easily get to be 2.2mm out and it is still ridable, but trackstands are a little bit sloppy. Maybe if you measured the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle with different amounts of suspension you would find it was not that big a deal.

I use the eno hub and love it. I laugh when I see how long it takes riders with track ends to get their chain tension right, with the eno it is normally only a few seconds and no messing about with getting the wheel perpendicular to the frame...

...but then they are normaly laughing back at my 24" wheeled bike so that makes us even.
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the suspension pivot looks really close to the bottom bracket, only about 3cm away. Just did a quick bit of geometry and I think that if the wheel travelled up by 4cm, the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle would only change by about 2.2mm. When the chain is wearing on my bike, if I leave it for a time without being bothered it can easily get to be 2.2mm out and it is still ridable, but trackstands are a little bit sloppy. Maybe if you measured the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle with different amounts of suspension you would find it was not that big a deal.

I use the eno hub and love it. I laugh when I see how long it takes riders with track ends to get their chain tension right, with the eno it is normally only a few seconds and no messing about with getting the wheel perpendicular to the frame...

...but then they are normaly laughing back at my 24" wheeled bike so that makes us even.
yea thanks. i have you suspension set really hard now so it doesn't spring when the back wheel hits a bump. i feel like i ride a hardtail now cuz of it. i will def take your advise and see. btw i have always been a fan of your bike. it is amazing looking. thanks again.
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Neat idea but really, pointless. Get a $20 80's steel road bike, buy a track wheelset, and feel like you just got liposuction.
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Neat idea but really, pointless. Get a $20 80's steel road bike, buy a track wheelset, and feel like you just got liposuction.
well black widow (check my signature)is just that. i wanted to try something not really too common
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