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    Chain Cleaning Machine And Fixed- Any Use One?

    Does any one use a chain cleaning machine to clean the chain on their fixed? I'm thinking of picking one up, but I've read that some may not work with single speed drivetrains. Any suggestions to which chain cleaner would work? Thanks.

    P.S. I'm only interested in chain cleaners, I know how to soak my chain in a bottle and scrub it with a tooth brush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    I know how to soak my chain in a bottle and scrub it with a tooth brush.
    Then why would you want something as useless as a "Chain Cleaner Machine"?

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    yea keep doin it the reg way. less you have to worry bout and $ saved.
    i let mine sit in degreaser for a couple hours, shking it up from time to time, then go t work on scrubbin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    Then why would you want something as useless as a "Chain Cleaner Machine"?
    Because I'd like to quickly run my chain through it to clean it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyeswho
    yea keep doin it the reg way. less you have to worry bout and $ saved.
    i let mine sit in degreaser for a couple hours, shking it up from time to time, then go t work on scrubbin
    Um, thanks. I'd like to try a machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    Because I'd like to quickly run my chain through it to clean it.
    They do such a horrid job that "quick" and "clean" don't apply. You'd do just as well with an old sock doused in Simple Green

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    They do such a horrid job that "quick" and "clean" don't apply. You'd do just as well with an old sock doused in Simple Green
    As I wrote in the OP I'm interested in chain cleaners, not other methods of cleaning. Must you force your opinion on me when I ask an honest question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    As I wrote in the OP I'm interested in chain cleaners, not other methods of cleaning. Must you force your opinion on me when I ask an honest question?
    Must you reject an honest opinion in regards to your question and instead try to force people to make positive comments about things that don't work well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    Must you reject an honest opinion in regards to your question and instead try to force people to make positive comments about things that don't work well?
    I'm well aware of the capabilities of chain cleaners.

    The question I posted was about which chain cleaners work with single speed drivetrains. Not, do chain cleaners work at all?

    Perhaps you didn't notice the post script of 'I'm only interested in chain cleaners, I know how to soak my chain in a bottle and scrub it with a tooth brush.'

    I don't want your opinion on chain cleaners' effectiveness, and I think I made that perfectly clear in the first post. But you still feel the need to go pissing all over the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    I'm well aware of the capabilities of chain cleaners.
    If that were true then you wouldn't have asked in the first place
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    The question I posted was about which chain cleaners work with single speed drivetrains. Not, do chain cleaners work at all?
    The latter answers the former.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    Perhaps you didn't notice the post script of 'I'm only interested in chain cleaners, I know how to soak my chain in a bottle and scrub it with a tooth brush.'
    Notice it? I quoted it
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    I don't want your opinion on chain cleaners' effectiveness, and I think I made that perfectly clear in the first post. But you still feel the need to go pissing all over the thread.
    I'm doing nothing of the sort. You're just being obtuse. There's no reason it shouldn't "work" all of the ones I've used over the years have been fairly flexible in the types of chains they accept, however it's this flexibility which makes them a poor choice for doing any decent job of cleaning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    If that were true then you wouldn't have asked in the first placeThe latter answers the former.Notice it? I quoted itI'm doing nothing of the sort. You're just being obtuse. There's no reason it shouldn't "work" all of the ones I've used over the years have been fairly flexible in the types of chains they accept, however it's this flexibility which makes them a poor choice for doing any decent job of cleaning
    I'm being obtuse?! It seems that you are looking for an internet argument. Have fun proving to yourself that you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    I'm being obtuse?! It seems that you are looking for an internet argument. Have fun proving to yourself that you are right.
    I gave you an honest opinion based on years of experience, you decided to devalue my opinion and start the argument

    Enjoy.

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    ^^^

    Except I explicitly said I wasn't looking for opinions on chain cleaners effectiveness. Why couldn't you respect that? Why did you feel the need to derail the thread?
    Last edited by Ziemas; 04-14-07 at 05:08 AM.

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    I've only used the Park Tools cleaner (CG1?). When using the cleaner with singlespeed: put your front wheel on something so that the bottom of the chain is horizontal (and the fluid won't fall out). With fixed gear: it's best to use a stand with a rotating clamp so that you can keep the back wheel in the air and the chain horizontal. Other than that they are the same as using one on a derailleur equipped bike. Oh, and make sure you don't have a super short wheelbase (curved seat tubes etc), 'cos the cleaner gets pretty cozy with the chainstays and chainring.

    I am not game to give my opinion on whether I think they are effective or not..... Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wotan
    I've only used the Park Tools cleaner (CG1?). When using the cleaner with singlespeed: put your front wheel on something so that the bottom of the chain is horizontal (and the fluid won't fall out). With fixed gear: it's best to use a stand with a rotating clamp so that you can keep the back wheel in the air and the chain horizontal. Other than that they are the same as using one on a derailleur equipped bike. Oh, and make sure you don't have a super short wheelbase (curved seat tubes etc), 'cos the cleaner gets pretty cozy with the chainstays and chainring.

    I am not game to give my opinion on whether I think they are effective or not..... Good luck.
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    Park and Spin Doctor have a cleaner with a handle instead of an "arm" to hold the cleaner in place against the rear derailleur. Snap it on the chain, hold it, and slowly crank the chain around. You'll still need to wipe the chain down, then apply some lube.



    Nashbar makes a mini cleaner but it looks extra cheesy to me.


    I've used a chain cleaner on my roadie and it works okay but for that deep cleaning, nothing beats a soak in a can of solvent.

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    I would not use one of those on a ss drivetrain.
    Best way to clean chain advise:

    http://bikeforums.net/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=16

    This technique works real well with a good oil based lube like prolink.
    Last edited by me thinkst; 04-14-07 at 08:37 AM.

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    from what I've seen, they tend not to work very well with SS and fixed drivetrains, largely because they depend on some slack in the chain to properly wind around the brushes and bits in the cleaner. Any that don't are probably a bit less effective. Some simply won't go onto a chain without a fair bit of slack, some might work if you can get a bit of slack in your chain by sliding the wheel forward in the trackends/dropouts.

    If you're handy, you could pick up the replacement brushes for one of the units (generally a lot cheaper than the full unit), and work something out that is designed for a straight chain so you don't have to de/re-tension anything.

    Good luck, and let us know what works out for you (if anything)...

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    Apparently Sheldon is the only one out there that knows the TRUE meaning of clean:

    That's Clean!
    trued 'till death

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    i use the park tools one, it does a decent job, true it's not perfect but it takes just a few minutes to use and is great if you don't have any spare time. the chain isn't meant to pend around anything in the one i have so i'm not sure about the others. just make sure you're using a decent degreaser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igneous Faction
    Apparently Sheldon is the only one out there that knows the TRUE meaning of clean:

    That's Clean!

    ROFL

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    this seems to work fine for me (White Lightning Trigger Chain Cleaner):



    I do this about once a month and then do the real deal, taking the chain off and shaking in a water bottle with some intensive solvents every 3-4 months. I use a very light lube though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgie
    ROFL

    sheldon clearly has too much time on his hands...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igneous Faction
    Apparently Sheldon is the only one out there that knows the TRUE meaning of clean:

    That's Clean!
    This page created April 1, 2007

    Disclaimer
    Note! This page is a joke! Note the date above!
    ShelBroCo does not actually recommend taking your chain completely apart! Deakinol Rinsing Solvent, Shelbrothane Cleaning Solvent, Shelbroconol Pre-soak, and Deakins White RollerGrease are all imaginary products.

    If you are looking for serious advice on Chain Maintence, click here!

    ps. if you do use a chain cleaning device, be careful and keep fingers/loose garments out of the way!
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    I highly reccomend the park tools chain cleaning tool and park liquid chain cleaner. I use it on both my fixed and geared bikes with excellent results. Of course you'll want to do it outdoors and use a repair stand or similar means of securing the bike. Takes about 5 minues and chain is sparkly clean. Sweet!

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    Thanks for clearing that up zippered

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