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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 04-15-07, 12:42 AM   #1
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Housemate owes me a new single speed wheelset. $$$??

I've basically lost 4 bikes in one semester. Yesterday was the pits when it came to things going wrong... Technically I have 2 bikes... but 3 of my wheelsets have practically been put out of commission. Without getting too emo, here are the details:

1. My old schwinn varsity 10 speed ate it when I ran over a stick which managed to lodge itself in between my spokes and ride up into my fork. It dented my fork and took 3 spokes out of the front wheel on that one.

2.+3. I got a schwinn which I converted into a single speed. I bought a fixed gear wheelset... and ended up stripped BOTH sides of the track hub (that's what I get for buying a ****ty cog.)

4. Yesterday (Friday the 13th... nothing seemed to be going right for me yesterday.) my housemate ran her car into my bike... which was locked up to a pole that supports our front patio... I woke up in the morning ready to ride out for an important meeting only to find my bike lying down on the driveway. It was still locked to the pole... but the backwheel had been dented up/taco'ed. Another indicator of my bike taking a pretty sharp fall was the handlebar tape was ripped up. The pole is way up the drive way... she had to have been driving really really bad in order to smash into it... but I wouldn't put it past her. She admitted to hitting my bike with her car and I am now thinking of how much to ask for compensation.

So my main question is, how much should I charge the house mate? She's kinda spoiled and I haven't been getting along with her of late. My handlebar tape is pretty much gone so I'm thinking of asking about $15 + whatever $$ for a back wheel. Anyone have any ideas how much a 27" singlespeed wheel would cost? The tubulars seem fine... so does the cog... but I'm thinking of how much to charge her + time (inconvenience of not having a bike) + labor.
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why not screw her over and upgrade to a new 700c wheelset? $130 will get you mavic cxps laced to formulas.
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Old 04-15-07, 01:05 AM   #3
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http://cgi.ebay.com/27-ROAD-BIKE-TRA...QQcmdZViewItem

You had tubulars on a Schwinn conversion?
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Old 04-15-07, 01:07 AM   #4
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er--- sorry, i mean the tires + inner tube on the 27 are fine.

Well.. i could charge her for the 700c... but that means I gotta get a new front wheel.... and a set of tires + inner tubes for that
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The other option i was thinking about was charging her a lot of money and just having the local wheelbuilder try and rebuild my fixed/back wheel... maybe instead make it a flip-flop hub rather than double fixed (I might be taking a bike trip to Washington DC from PA so it might be a good idea to have the singlespeed... although I might want to rebuild the 10-speed for that trip...)
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Don't bother with the trashed rear wheel. The rim is compromised, the hub's threads are stripped, and most wheelbuilders won't re-use spokes. Just upgrade to 700c wheels. You don't have to buy a new front wheel if you don't want. People run 650c front wheels with 700c rear wheels, the difference between 27 and 700 is even less than that.
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Oh, the completely trashed singlespeed rear wheel I won't bother with. Rim's bent-- probably won't even try to salvage the hub and the spokes are all ****ted up. This is the 27" that my housemate ran into. I could use the front 27" that was on the single speed wheelset and pair it up with my 10 speeder since that front wheel was trashed by a stick.

I was thinking of applying the money into getting the 700c fixed gear wheelset rebuilt (the one I stripped.) I was thinking of going with a flip flop hub instead... the spokes + rim should be fine... I hope the wheel builder would be up for reusing the spokes... but we'll see.
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If she's spoiled and bike stupid I'd say $200 and see where she goes with that. That'd at least get you a budget fixed wheelset off ebay.
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If she's spoiled and bike stupid I'd say $200 and see where she goes with that. That'd at least get you a budget fixed wheelset off ebay.
Yup. Just get a wheelset. The cost of rebuilding your other track wheel will be more than a new wheel - about $1.50 to $2.00 per spoke plus the cost of a new hub.
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Just asked for $200. I expect the back wheel rebuilt will probably cost me in the neighborhood of $100. (originally the wheelbuilder built my wheelset for around $175)

This also means I gotta sit on my thumb for a week waiting for the parts to come in and the wheelset to get built up. (I'm currently using the 10-speeder's backwheel and rigged together a ghetto singlespeed.) I can probably use the extra money towards new grip tape since mine got ripped up and buy a lot of delicious food for a week. Still, does not offset that this whole weekend has been kind of a nightmare.
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buy the most expensive wheel you want, and bring her the receipt.
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She crashed into your porch. I doubt she has any idea what kind of wheel you had, so get whatever you want and stick her with the bill.
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She crashed into your porch. I doubt she has any idea what kind of wheel you had, so get whatever you want and stick her with the bill.
+1 for practicality... I wouldn't get Volos or Mavic Ios, but you'd be better off with a 700c wheelset anyway.
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Why'd you screw your housemate over?

Dunno, maybe if you hate her anyway... But still, it'll be pretty obvious what's going on if you're broke and suddenly buy a new front wheel along with the rear.
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Old 04-15-07, 12:11 PM   #15
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piss in her dresser and call it even...just kidding.
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Old 04-15-07, 12:24 PM   #16
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One of her friend has pissed on her car already...

I'm not getting along with her because she just sits around the house and does nothing. She doesn't clean, she doesn't turn off lights, she has no job, she doesn't make work anymore, she's just unmotivated and it's kind of draining to try and help someone out who doesn't care to be helped. Instead she justs online all the time, buys clothes, and buys criterion edition DVDs. She's even dating a total sleaze/*******. I tried to get to know the guy and it just made me dislike him more. It's a pity because she's a good looking girl, has great taste, but just doesn't seem to care much about anything.

I don't hate her, but I am tired of trying to help her when she obviously does not care. I let her live with me this year and in some ways regret it now.

I am not trying to screw her over-- but she did run into my back wheel and crush the thing pretty badly.
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maybe you shouldnt be riding if you cant solve this "problem"
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maybe you shouldnt be riding if you cant solve this "problem"
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maybe you shouldnt be riding if you cant solve this "problem"
Sorry, I'm at a loss as to what this means? Meaning that I can't put a price down on parts? Just because I don't have an immediate encyclopedic knowledge of parts, their cost, their labor cost, I should not be riding? I'm not feigning to be a connoisseur of bikes, I just thought I would ask for help because this situation is touchy. I'm not trying to destroy my relationship with my house mate and am trying to balance out how much $ this thing will cost + the time and inconvenience it costs me + the grief. I'm basically stranded with no real working wheelset... yes the other two are not her fault-- but the last one was completely avoidable. She drove FORWARD into the front porch and hit the wheel. This was when she was trying to back up and get out of the driveway. At the very least she could have woken me up to move my bike and the trash cans so she wouldn't have anything to hit if she moved forward.

I'm sorry I'm getting a bit defensive-- but this whole situation hasn't exactly made me the happiest and I fail to see how I "should not" be riding if I can't solve this problem. I know I don't have your sympathy, but I don't need your naysaying. If i did-- my thread title would ask for it. Thanks.
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Sorry, I'm at a loss as to what this means? Meaning that I can't put a price down on parts? Just because I don't have an immediate encyclopedic knowledge of parts, their cost, their labor cost, I should not be riding? I'm not feigning to be a connoisseur of bikes, I just thought I would ask for help because this situation is touchy. I'm not trying to destroy my relationship with my house mate and am trying to balance out how much $ this thing will cost + the time and inconvenience it costs me + the grief. I'm basically stranded with no real working wheelset... yes the other two are not her fault-- but the last one was completely avoidable. She drove FORWARD into the front porch and hit the wheel. This was when she was trying to back up and get out of the driveway. At the very least she could have woken me up to move my bike and the trash cans so she wouldn't have anything to hit if she moved forward.

I'm sorry I'm getting a bit defensive-- but this whole situation hasn't exactly made me the happiest and I fail to see how I "should not" be riding if I can't solve this problem. I know I don't have your sympathy, but I don't need your naysaying. If i did-- my thread title would ask for it. Thanks.
I don't know what they mean either...maybe they're trying to be funny.
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I would just buy a whole new wheelset. You can get a decent one for under $200. I like the comment about the criterion movies, though.
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I don't know what they mean either...maybe they're trying to be funny.
Yeah, I hope they're joking. I think you should a. get an inexpensive but quality wheelset (bicyclewheels.com, cxps + formulas, i've had no problems with mine) and b. fix your housemate problem.
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why not screw her over and upgrade to a new 700c wheelset? $130 will get you mavic cxps laced to formulas.
+2, dont rip her off entirely, but certainly get a decent formula wheelset and a good cog and lockring
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Sorry, I'm at a loss as to what this means? Meaning that I can't put a price down on parts? Just because I don't have an immediate encyclopedic knowledge
I think the comment was aimed more at your current relationship with your roomie.
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Sounds like a match made in heaven. I suggest wooing her, then indulging in a short dating period. Then, propose MARRIAGE!

If this all goes as planned, you'll have a joint bank account and you can just take whatever you deem fit for a new wheelset.
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