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Old 04-17-07, 07:44 AM   #1
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Paul E-lever.

Search isn't working so I don't know if this has come up.

Paul has a new brake lever, targeting the fixed-gear crowd. Anyone have any experience with them? I'm a fan of how it looks:
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Old 04-17-07, 07:47 AM   #2
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I saw one in a shop. It was expensive as hell.
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looks nice, but at $52 for one lever it is way over priced, and I don't see any advantages over a bmx or cross lever.
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What makes it so 'innovative' or worth $52? It does look good, but I'd like to see it on a bike.
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I saw one in a shop. It was expensive as hell.
Well Duh...it's Pauls. LOL I would love to see their profit margins on some of the stuff they sell. It is all really nice but all they do is toss some AL in the CNC and let it rip. Sure there is some engineering in there but I am sure the owner is an engineer and isn't paying an outside designer.

I should put some designs together and get them machined (you don't even really have to have the overhead of the shop but I assume they do to maximize the profits).
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Old 04-17-07, 07:54 AM   #6
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looks nice, but at $52 for one lever it is way over priced, and I don't see any advantages over a bmx or cross lever.
It is made by Paul...it must be better.

Hey I have their hubs and am thinking about the cranks...that means I can poke fun right?
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You can expect it -as with anything Paul- to be very high quality, no plastic, stainless hardware, etc. With Paul you get what you pay for, and that money goes straight to Chico, USA.

I personally am riding his cross lever which I wish he was still producing.
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It's designed to be used on the upper flat area near the stem, but not on the bulge area.
does this mean that you can't jam it directly next to the stem?
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deos this mean that you can't jam it directly next to the stem?
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from paul: "It's designed to be used on the upper flat area near the stem, but not on the bulge area."

i think i mean does this mean that you can't mount the lever directly next to the stem?

i'm a little slow and/or the wording from paul is a bit confusing.
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yeah, fifty two clams is a little more than i wanna pay for a brake lever.

looks real nice. if it were a little more modestly priced i would probably get one.
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I just put an Odyssey monolever on my townie. Works like a dream with cantis



cost: 17 euros

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It means it won't sit on the buldge. If you have bars with a wide buldge area you might not be able to fit it that close to the stem.




And kids, that $52 goes into the cards suite cnc'd on the lever. I think that in turn goes to Paul's Vegas spending money.
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it means it won't sit on the buldge. if you have bars with a wide buldge area you might not be able to fit it that close to the stem.
huh. ok. i would think most would want their brake lever directly next to the stem, as that seems to be the prevaling fashion.

talk about a stupid design.
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if IKEA made a lever this would be it.
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it means it won't sit on the buldge. if you have bars with a wide buldge area you might not be able to fit it that close to the stem.



seriously, I swear someone is going to argue the superiority of Paul canti brakes next...
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As I said last time this came up it's an overpriced peice of **** like a lot of the stuff paul has come up with since the heyday of cnced mtb parts.

It's heavy.
It's to short and shaped inappropriately to provide good leverage.
It's not hinged.
It's expensive as ****.
I think there was more wrong with it too but I don't remember.
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Well Duh...it's Pauls. LOL I would love to see their profit margins on some of the stuff they sell. It is all really nice but all they do is toss some AL in the CNC and let it rip. Sure there is some engineering in there but I am sure the owner is an engineer and isn't paying an outside designer.

I should put some designs together and get them machined (you don't even really have to have the overhead of the shop but I assume they do to maximize the profits).
Oh yeah, Paul Price is just swimming in cash. Easy money this precision machine shop thing.

You know how many whiz kids with a CAD program come and go in this industry?
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Its only a problem if the bars have a bulge. I would think that nitto bars, with the 25.4mm diameter wouldn't have that problem. I sent paul an email with a suggestion about a lever, and they seem to be pretty open to new suggestions and requests.
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You can expect it -as with anything Paul- to be very high quality, no plastic, stainless hardware, etc. With Paul you get what you pay for, and that money goes straight to Chico, USA.

I personally am riding his cross lever which I wish he was still producing.
+1 Me thinkst the now-defunct cross lever is da bomb! I used one for a year (before switching to Dia-comps) with a front v-brake. Gosh, was it ever handy (ouch) up there on top of the drops.

You could by a Brooks saddle, a Midge bar or a set of decent clipless pedals for about the same price as the new Paul lever -- if you think about it.
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if IKEA made a lever this would be it.
no, ikea's lever would be priced well, and you'd have to put it together yourself
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Its only a problem if the bars have a bulge. I would think that nitto bars, with the 25.4mm diameter wouldn't have that problem. I sent paul an email with a suggestion about a lever, and they seem to be pretty open to new suggestions and requests.
why does it matter? isn't a 25.4 diamter a 25.4 diameter regardles if its on the flat or on a bulge?

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As I said last time this came up it's an overpriced peice of **** like a lot of the stuff paul has come up with since the heyday of cnced mtb parts.

It's heavy.
It's to short and shaped inappropriately to provide good leverage.
It's not hinged.
It's expensive as ****.
I think there was more wrong with it too but I don't remember.
Taken as your humble opinion (maybe not so humble)...
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who is this paul and why have I not found this stuff before?

question two: what's wrong with throwing a cheap aero lever on the end of your flip-n-chops?
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from paul: "It's designed to be used on the upper flat area near the stem, but not on the bulge area."

i think i mean does this mean that you can't mount the lever directly next to the stem?

i'm a little slow and/or the wording from paul is a bit confusing.
My "+?" meant I was wondering the same thing. Sorry.
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