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Old 05-08-07, 06:22 PM   #1
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IRO Mark V or Lemond Fillmore?!

So I'm in the market for a new bike after and unfortunate accident, and I can't quite afford to do a custom build up the way that I would like.

I'm wondering if anybody has any insight into this decision...

Been contemplating the Mark V for a while now, it seems that i have read nothing but positive words about Tony and the bikes that he builds. They seem inexpensive, solid, and don't look flashy (which is something I appreciate)

I took a Lemond Fillmore for a spin today and enjoyed it, the bike felt solid, smooth, and responsive. I think it looks beautiful, although not quite as slick as the Mark V.

I wish there was a way to test ride the IRO!

The Fillmore is 679.99..and the Mark V would be 599.99 before shipping, so they are both in the same price range.

anybody have some advice?

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Old 05-08-07, 06:29 PM   #2
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go with the fillmore, I think your getting better components for the price......and where are you finding a fillmore for under a grand?
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Old 05-08-07, 06:29 PM   #3
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AFAIK, 680 is a steal for the filmore.

edit: damn, beat to it.
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look for an 06 model, nicer steel and made in USA
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Fillmores are no longer US-made or os platinum tubed, are they? Regardless, that sounds like a good price, plus you won't see nearly as many fillmores out and about as you will mark vs...

edit: damn, beat to it also
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Thanks, I went and bought the Fillmore...


It was in Boston at the International Bicycle Center for 680
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nice what year? do you know?
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dang, what size and do you know if they have any in 49cm?
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Fillmores are no longer US-made or os platinum tubed, are they? Regardless, that sounds like a good price, plus you won't see nearly as many fillmores out and about as you will mark vs...

Because the Mark V is better.
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No, because the Fillmore usually costs about $1200.
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2006: Fillmore has TT OX frame w/ carbon fork, Cane Creek brakes, paired-spoke wheels
2007: Fillmore has generic cromoly frame with steel fork, generic brakes, "normal" wheels

Given the decontented spec, $680 seems high-reasonable for a 2007.

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Get a Pista.
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2006: Fillmore has TT OX frame w/ carbon fork, Cane Creek brakes, paired-spoke wheels
2007: Fillmore has generic cromoly frame with steel fork, generic brakes, "normal" wheels

Given the decontented spec, $680 seems high-reasonable for a 2007.

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2005: Fillmore has TT OX frame w/ carbon fork, Cane Creek brakes, paired-spoke wheels
2006: has steel fork and alex rims
2007: has generic cromolly frame

Price was always around $1100, so they reduced the components to keep it stable. I lucked out and picked up an 05 at a bike store near me -awesome bike, great frame, great ride. According to another dealer they swapped out the TT OX frame with a "similarly behaving material", if they really did then this would remain a great bike - the price of $680 sounds very low. The 06 descriptions on the website are misleading, they describe the 05 model, but they changed that early in 06 to the reduced spec above, but never updated the page http://2006.lemondbikes.com/2006_bikes/filmore.shtml

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...the price of $680 sounds very low...
Very low, but higher than a Steamroller, Paddy Wagon, Langster, Madison, Rush Hour, Mark V...
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what about a new IRO Angus vs. 06 Lemond fillmore? I have a chance to pick up a practically new 06 fillmore for 700. though, I'm tempted by the IRO koolaid. Can the fillmore take city abuse?
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in new york? where?
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actually it's up in ct..
anyone know if any of the 06 Fillmore's came in Black/White? Apparently this bike has the black/white color scheme, so methinks its a 05...
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I have a lot of respect for IRO - I even got in the volume deal - - anyhow if you can get a 06 or 05 with the platinum OX frame for that price GO FOR IT. Geometry is a bit laid back(73 degree or so), but that acctually may help avoiding or crossing (bummpp) certain obstacles
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fillmore

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actually it's up in ct..
anyone know if any of the 06 Fillmore's came in Black/White? Apparently this bike has the black/white color scheme, so methinks its a 05...
05 Black/Cream
06 Black/Raw

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/apr/YuichiOda.htm
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/mar/EricBork.htm
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Not quite:

2005: Fillmore has TT OX frame w/ carbon fork, Cane Creek brakes, paired-spoke wheels
2006: has steel fork and alex rims
2007: has generic cromolly frame

Price was always around $1100, so they reduced the components to keep it stable. I lucked out and picked up an 05 at a bike store near me -awesome bike, great frame, great ride. According to another dealer they swapped out the TT OX frame with a "similarly behaving material", if they really did then this would remain a great bike - the price of $680 sounds very low. The 06 descriptions on the website are misleading, they describe the 05 model, but they changed that early in 06 to the reduced spec above, but never updated the page http://2006.lemondbikes.com/2006_bikes/filmore.shtml
I bought my '06 Fillmore from the LBS yesterday for $699 (on sale). It's the Black/Raw color scheme and has the parts specified on the Lemond website for the 2006 bike, so I'm not sure if your info is correct.

It has the True Temper OX Platinum, made in the USA, and has the exact component specs on the page you referenced:

MAINFRAME True Temper OX Platinum Fixed Gear Road
FORK Bontrager Carbon, with alloy steerer
HEADSET Aheadset, sealed
BOTTOM BRACKET Truvativ GXP external
CRANK Bontrager Race GXP Track, 44T
PEDALS N/A
FRONT DERAILLEUR N/A
REAR DERAILLEUR N/A
SHIFT/BRAKE LEVERS N/A
CASSETTE Shimano Dura Ace Track Cog 16t / Shimano MX30 - 18T Freewheel
CHAIN Shimano HG73
WHEEL SYSTEM Bontrager Select Track wheel system
TIRES Bontrager Race Lite 700x25, folding
BRAKES Cane Creek SC3 w/cartridge pads
HANDLEBAR Bontrager Select
STEM Bontrager Select
SADDLE Bontrager Race Luxe
SEATPOST Bontrager Select
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wheel system?
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wheel system?
It's a Trek thing.
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Congratulations doughboy - you got a great bike there for a fantastic price. Looks to me like this is one of the early 06 production, before they downgraded some components - enjoy the ride
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