Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

Bottom Bracket question

Search
Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Bottom Bracket question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-03-07, 10:32 AM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Bottom Bracket question

I'm in the process of putting a new crankset on my bike, but something doesn't seem right, so I'm wondering what I'm missing. First off, the spindle on my bottom bracket moves from side to side, and logic tells me that it shouldn't be doing that. This is probably my most important concern right now, because fixing that might lead to the solution of my other problems, which include the cranks not going on the spindle all the way, and having to much space, it seems, between the crank and the bike.

So, what do I need to do to keep my spindle in place? Do I need to buy spacers or a lockring or something?
dhugs is offline  
Old 05-03-07, 10:39 AM
  #2  
nothing but a gnab gib
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Rock City
Posts: 222

Bikes: The Heart of Gold starship bicycle

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
loose ball BB, or sealed?

if it's loose ball i would tighten the cups down further.
if it's sealed you'll need to measure and get an appropriate spacer.
moe sizlack is offline  
Old 05-03-07, 10:40 AM
  #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
it's loose. i'll give that a try.
dhugs is offline  
Old 05-03-07, 01:08 PM
  #4  
yo yo yo yo yo
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: delaware
Posts: 2,518
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
like so https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=93
trons is offline  
Old 05-09-07, 12:21 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So, I pulled the crank off, readjusted the bottom bracket, thought it was fine, and then felt a little bit of play still. I pulled the crank off again, and now I'm fairly confident I fixed the problem. I also tightened one of my toeclips, which I think might have contributed to the wobbly feeling i was getting. However, after putting the crank back on, I keep getting this horrible creak/groan/cracking kind of sound. It's definitely coming from the crank/bottom bracket area of my bike. It seems like it happens everytime I push down with my left foot, but it's fairly random otherwise. I pulled the crank off again, retightened everything, but still no dice. There's nothing more frustrating than trading one problem for another. Should I pull the crank again and regrease everything before putting it back on? I can't imagine what it could be from. I feel like I've checked and rechecked everything. Is it possible that while readjusting the bottom bracket I might have tightened it too much? It pedals fine, and I'm afraid to loosen it and have the spindle shake again.

Any suggestions?
dhugs is offline  
Old 05-09-07, 12:34 PM
  #6  
Danger! Danger!
 
Rugen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 216

Bikes: CAAD10, Norco A1, Bob Jackson WT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Did you overhaul the BB too? If not, I would go for a full overhaul. New balls, grease, maybe even a bb shell liner. There are tons of articles on how to do this.

Does it spin freely with the chain off? I would guess it's too tight. If you've got loose ball BB (which is what it sounds like), there may be ball retainer cages... those can get bent and might be jacking up your ball movement, especially when tight. I got rid of my cages and upped the ball count. As a result my BB is a lot smoother and I don't have to worry about jacking up the cages. Although you don't want play, a tiny bit is natural. If you've completely elminated the play it may be a bit too tight.

You might also want to check the torque on the crank arm bolt to make sure the crank arms are adequately secured to the spindle.
Rugen is offline  
Old 05-09-07, 12:56 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've already overhauled the BB with new bearing and what have you. There were no retainer cages. Maybe I'll try loosening it a bit, and recheck the crank arm bolt.
dhugs is offline  
Old 05-09-07, 12:57 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
DeafLamb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Portland, ME
Posts: 333

Bikes: Surly Steamroller, IRO Groupbuy, Trek 520, plus a bunch of homebrews

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If you where riding the bike at all while your spindle would "move from side to side" there is a good chance you seriously screwed your bottom bracket up. I would try new balls first as those are the cheapest. If that doesn't solve your problem spend the extra dough and get a cheap cartridge BB.

-ray
DeafLamb is offline  
Old 05-09-07, 06:50 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Alright, I've removed and retightened almost everything. I noticed my fixed cup was rather loose, and thought that might be the culprit, but alas, it was not. The rest of the bike rides perfectly now, except for this clicking. I tried forcing the noise, and I'm pretty sure it's coming from the rightside crank. Earlier today when I was riding I thought it went away on its own, but now that I fiddled with it, it's back. I'm running out of ideas and it's frustrating because it didnt make that noise before, and I didnt fiddle with anything else. ugh. I'm afraid to keep riding it the way it is, because I don't want to make anything worse for me later on.
dhugs is offline  
Old 05-10-07, 10:02 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I removed and regreased the right pedal, and then retentioned the chainline, which had gotten a little saggy. The click is gone, and it rides better than it ever did before. phew.
dhugs is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.