IRO Angus or Mark V???
05-10-07, 12:39 PM
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IRO Angus or Mark V???
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I am going to sell my fixed Cross Check and buy a complete IRO with some upgrades. My initial intention was to go with the Angus because of the Reynolds tubing, simplicity, and the cool old school build I could do with it, but I am having second thoughts. The, also sweet, Mark V has the appeal of the threadless stem (I do love a nitto quill though), looks tough and it is a few bucks cheaper.
What experience do you folks have with these frames?
Pros Cons etc.
I am going to be mostly using this as a commuter/street racer.
GO...
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I am going to sell my fixed Cross Check and buy a complete IRO with some upgrades. My initial intention was to go with the Angus because of the Reynolds tubing, simplicity, and the cool old school build I could do with it, but I am having second thoughts. The, also sweet, Mark V has the appeal of the threadless stem (I do love a nitto quill though), looks tough and it is a few bucks cheaper.
What experience do you folks have with these frames?
Pros Cons etc.
I am going to be mostly using this as a commuter/street racer.
GO...
thanks
sean
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I used to have the best of both worlds; A Mark V Pro.. but the seat post seized and got decapitated w/o coming out from the frame. So now I have a Mark V, which I like quite a lot. I'd like to get an Angus just so I could have the nice quill stem look, which chics dig. The Mark V doesn't get me much p****, I need to bust out my miyata for that. Go with the Angus.
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Originally Posted by andypants
Sames tubes. I would go with whichever frame works with the HS you already have.
The Angus doesn't have a nicer tube set? Why the more money?
05-10-07, 01:02 PM
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Angus is Reynolds 631
Mark V is 4130
Reynolds is the reason for the extra cash.
thanks for the words, keep em coming
Mark V is 4130
Reynolds is the reason for the extra cash.
thanks for the words, keep em coming
05-10-07, 01:48 PM
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i'd go with the Mark V. you won't notice the upgrade in tubing, except maybe in weight (and i mean come on, you can always get a lighter wheelset, or drink less beers), but you'll definitely notice the improved performance/stiffness of a threadless steertube, and you'll definitely notice yourself saving some money.
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Originally Posted by red house
The Mark V doesn't get me much p****, I need to bust out my miyata for that. Go with the Angus.
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I noticed a big difference between my cross check and my angus - the CC would flex sprinting or on uphills while the Angus is like a rock. Of course, I've never ridden a Mark V so it's kinda apples and oranges. I do kinda wish the Angus had the option of a threadless 631 fork, but c'est la vie.
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I was split over the Angus and Mark V. I eventually went with the Mark V because of the stem and never looked back. Love my Mark V.
If you use your bike to get *****, you need to work on your game.
If you use your bike to get *****, you need to work on your game.
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Angus all the way. I own one and honestly, I think the Mark V's geometry is too similiar to a road bike.
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the two have identical geometry
this really comes down to the following:
reynolds vs. 4130
threaded vs. threadless
slightly more expensive vs. slightly cheaper
round tubing vs. ovalized downtube (purely aesthetic)
i like my angus, but i know i would've been happy with a mark v too.
listen to queerpunk if money is a concern
this really comes down to the following:
reynolds vs. 4130
threaded vs. threadless
slightly more expensive vs. slightly cheaper
round tubing vs. ovalized downtube (purely aesthetic)
i like my angus, but i know i would've been happy with a mark v too.
listen to queerpunk if money is a concern
05-11-07, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by queerpunk
...or drink less beers
05-11-07, 10:08 AM
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Beyond the tubes the choice is really about threadless or threaded headsets. I ride a Mark V because I have tons of extra threadless headset parts (all my bikes are such) and don't like the look of quill stems and/or dealing with threaded headsets. I adore the frame and can't find a single fault with it, I have maybe 2500miles on it.
Ironically enough I'm currently building up a Cross Check....
Ironically enough I'm currently building up a Cross Check....
05-11-07, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by johnprolly
Angus all the way. I own one and honestly, I think the Mark V's geometry is too similiar to a road bike.
they are the same geometry.
they are the same geometry.
they are the exact same geometry.
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the two have identical geometry
this really comes down to the following:
reynolds vs. 4130
threaded vs. threadless
slightly more expensive vs. slightly cheaper
round tubing vs. ovalized downtube (purely aesthetic)
i like my angus, but i know i would've been happy with a mark v too.
listen to queerpunk if money is a concern
this really comes down to the following:
reynolds vs. 4130
threaded vs. threadless
slightly more expensive vs. slightly cheaper
round tubing vs. ovalized downtube (purely aesthetic)
i like my angus, but i know i would've been happy with a mark v too.
listen to queerpunk if money is a concern
What is the difference with Reynolds 631 and 4130? Is 631 stronger and lighter?
What is the difference with threaded and threadless stem/forks? Sounds like one may be more compatible with some parts or something. What are quilled stems, and what is the opposite of this?
Also adding onto the difference between Mark V and Angus:
Mark V has a hole in the rear bridge for rear brakes
and cable stops on the top tube.
Angus does not. But it's a track bike, who needs rear brakes anyways?
(maybe for the 1-5% that utilizes the SS)
