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Modest Proposal 05-19-07 12:20 PM

Classic or Contemporary
 
I have a single speed schwinn le tour. As far as I can tell everything on it is original except for the tires tubes and bar tape. I am interested in putting some money into this bike but i don't know if I should attempt to keep it looking classic and original or more contemporary, ie bullhorns, new fork, new saddle etc. pictures below.


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chillywater 05-19-07 12:44 PM

I'd get a new wheelset, seat, crank and tires. Love the fork. Fix it. Woudn't worry about keeping it classic.

Modest Proposal 05-19-07 12:55 PM

My LBS can hook me up with a pair of bolt on track wheels with a flip flop hub for $100 which is going to be the first thing i do those old steel rims don't brake for ****. I thought a brooks saddle might look nice but I know those are $$$. Where can I find a cheap crank though?

marqueemoon 05-19-07 01:05 PM

For that bike? Classic all the way.

Modest Proposal 05-19-07 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by marqueemoon
For that bike? Classic all the way.

I understand this view as well but finding and buying classic parts can be expensive and difficult. Also since I took the kickstand and suicide brakes off and the chainring was ground down and it was converted to a ss its not really classic just classic looking. I think if I do this carefully it can be asthetically pleasing while keeping a classic vibe.

marqueemoon 05-19-07 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Modest Proposal
I think if I do this carefully it can be asthetically pleasing while keeping a classic vibe.

Yes you can.

Modest Proposal 05-19-07 01:43 PM

I'll easily have the hottest ss/fixie in morgantown, a place not reknowned for its bike culture.

mander 05-19-07 02:09 PM

Do preservationists get worked up about lower end bikes? I would say turkey lever bosses are a green light. make it into a tall bike or something.

Modest Proposal 05-19-07 02:16 PM

you're going to have to present that last post in terms I can understand lol. I am not personally super concerned with keeping it classic I just want to make it easier and more fun to ride. I'd like to get new handlebars, wheels, saddle, and possibly crank (the one on there is a double with the teeth ground off the big ring and its ugly.) A tallbike isn't really practical for where I live. What are these turkey lever bosses you have green lit? The guy at my lbs was the only person I have asked that put doubt in my head asking if I really wanna invest money in a cheap bike and if I really wanna mess with an already classic look.

Landgolier 05-19-07 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Modest Proposal
My LBS can hook me up with a pair of bolt on track wheels with a flip flop hub for $100 which is going to be the first thing i do those old steel rims don't brake for ****. I thought a brooks saddle might look nice but I know those are $$$. Where can I find a cheap crank though?

You already have a nice, cheap crank on it, just roll with that. Keeps the classic look and all. It probably needs a new BB anyway, if the chainline isn't right you can make it so.

Modest Proposal 05-19-07 02:20 PM

The working chainring is bolted to the outer ground down one. I don't like having the outer one on there it messes up the look for me I really just want a single ring crank.

doofo 05-19-07 02:22 PM

modest, you can rebuild it

you have the technology

better than it was before

better…stronger…faster

Modest Proposal 05-19-07 02:24 PM

Thats the spirit but in your opinion do I need anything more than my aforementioned components?

doofo 05-19-07 02:26 PM

whatrugonnadowitit
?

Modest Proposal 05-19-07 02:30 PM

Maybe some bullhorns, new saddle, wheels, and crankset if i can find one.

doofo 05-19-07 02:32 PM

you will ride it around town for fun

as a commuter
?

Hocam 05-19-07 02:50 PM

It's not really that nice of a frame. If it was a paramount or premier or something worth keeping vintage then yeah. Seeing how modern components work a lot better (ie sealed and cartridge bearings) then if you want it to ride nice, go modern.

Landgolier 05-20-07 12:26 PM

Looks to me like the larger ring was unbolted, not ground off. The oversize guard and general lots-o-metal look of the crank/chainrings is part of the look of bikes of that era, if you do a new crank then the build is going to look modern no matter what.

mander 05-20-07 12:47 PM

Turkey levers: those things that let you brake from the bar tops on crappy older bikes.

Turkey lever bosses: what turkey levers attach to. Yours are those rootbeer coloured things poking out the side of the brake levers in photo #6.

Green light: signal meaning "Go"

mike alanko 05-20-07 01:18 PM

What does it mean, "Schwinn APPROVED"? Is it like some other company made it for schwinn and they put their stamp of approval on it?

Personally I wouldn't throw money at this bike. If you want a refreshed style, yes, change the bars, but I don't think it merits doing anything special to it. If you change the wheels, you'll want better hubs... change the bars and you'll want a better stem... change the stem and you'll want a better headset... and eventually, you'll just want a better frame. It's like the 1990s Honda Civics you see driving around with $5,000 carbon hoods and 100 horsepower..

Is this what's meant by the term "boom bike"? An inexpensive "me too" ride from the '70s when cycling was on an upswing?

Sorry, no offense, just don't want you to try to be 'cool' on the cheap and fail. At a certain point, the disconnect between the quality of the new components and the quality of the frame is going to become too much for the statement you're making.

Put some flatbars with yellow OURYs on it and some yellow tires and tear it up. Get rid of the brakes and the giant toothless crank ring, too.

Good luck!

garagegirl 05-20-07 01:30 PM

Not all bikes that came with suicide levers were crappy. My triple butted Bridgestone 450 came with them, and they were attached to quality set of brake levers.

mike alanko 05-20-07 01:44 PM

If this thing is butted at all, I'll be really surprised.

andre nickatina 05-20-07 01:52 PM

jeez, that geometry is beyond slack...

i'd say do the proper thing, save and wait for a better setup and scrap that one altogether. i had a le tour as an SS, it was okay at the time but pretty heavy and beater-ific.

Modest Proposal 05-20-07 02:20 PM

I have the "turkey" levers somewhere but I took them off when I bought the bike. I really like the look of this bike and am not too concerned with its quality, I was thinking about putting some money into this bike knowing that swapping the parts out to a different frame when I find one shouldn't be difficult. The geometry has me pretty upright but the frame is also too large for me which is why the seat post is invisible. I kinda jumped at this one because it was already ss when I found it and a yellow bike is something I have always wanted. If I put say $150 into this I should be able to get new wheels and handlebars and maybe swap out a saddle from the local bike co-op. The co-op also sells alot of vintage bikes, frames and parts. What are some models I should keep my eye out for if I wanna get a different setup and swap parts?

mike alanko 05-20-07 02:37 PM

If the frame's geometry and size are wrong, your new bars and seat won't do you any ergonomic good, and riding a bike that's too big for you doesn't look cool, even if it's your favourite colour.

A new wheelset should be interchangable with another frame, as long as the axle length is the same. Is it 130, 135, 120mm? Will your chainline be right? If you get new handlebars, choose a diameter that will be compatible with current standard stems - which might mean replacing the stem on the "Approved". More $.

For respectable parts you're looking at at least double your budget. Ride it as it is, do some research and save up for a real bike. Sorry.

Also, come over to the Classic and Vintage forum, there's a big difference between 'vintage' and 'just old'.

I think you're gonna need a bigger bike shop.


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