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Old 05-25-07, 08:06 PM   #1
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First Crash!! - what can I salvage?

Hi Everyone,
I'm on this forum a lot although I rarely post unless I have a question. Last week I got a Surly Steamroller Complete. Exactly one week later I crashed it.

I was riding too confidently down a steep hill, and trying to negotiate a sharp turn ended up with me hitting a wooden post going about 30mph. The frame has a small scrape but otherwise seems fine. My front caliper brake was twisted terribly.

I guess my main question is, how bad do my wheels have to be for them to not be salvageable? The front wobbles in almost a snake-like motion, and the back has a small wobble I think can be worked with. So how bad is bad? Everything else but the brake seems to have held up fine at first glance, even the fork. But my wheels seem totally trashed. Is it even worth it to bring them into my LBS?

I'm just curious about how bad the wheels(rims) have to be to be unsalvagable,as I doubt the problem can be diagnosed from what I've told you.

P.S. I'm fine btw. My back looks terrible and I'm pretty sore, but thanks to some luck and my helmet everything is ok.
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Old 05-25-07, 08:07 PM   #2
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Bring it back to the LBS. Most likely everything will be fixable.

Well, you'll probably need new bar tape, but that's like $10.
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Old 05-25-07, 08:15 PM   #3
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Check the rim and hub for cracks. If you cant find any you are ok.
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Old 05-25-07, 08:22 PM   #4
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Check the rim and hub for cracks. If you cant find any you are ok.
Thats not true in all cases, some wheels might get thrown soo out of true that no matter how much u true them they will not be able to get completly straight. You could unlace the wheel and smash the rim with a hammer to bend it back as much as possible, but if you do this you comprimise the strenght of the wheel.

Your real best bet would to bring the bike into your lbs, because unless you have a good amount of experience with wheels you wont be able to tell. Let them give you the bad news.

Lucky thing is you alive and i dont think a new pair of those wheels will set you back too much.
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I was in an accident not too long ago, front wheel was all snake-like as you described. A few days ago I finally got around to getting the tire and tube off. Decided it was not even worth an attempt to fix/true it, so I took the rim tape off in order to unlace it and I discovered two serious cracks in the rim. Just some food for thought.

p.s., the rim by the way, a Mavic Open Pro.
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dont ride till the bike is checked
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Good to hear that you came out ok.

If the front wheel is really out of true, then even if the shop manages to get it straight, it'll probably never want to stay straight, and might be much weaker. However, new front wheels are pretty cheap. Get some random road front wheel and throw it on.

How did you manage to bend the front brake? I've never seen someone manage to damage a brake caliper in a crash.
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Yeah basically the bolt that goes through the frame on the caliper bent pretty far(about 45 degrees). From what I'm hearing it sounds like I will probably need at least a new front wheel, but I'll probably take it to my LBS for a second opinion. I'll probably take the tire and tube off and check for cracks. If nothing else the hub seems to be in good shape I could probably sell it on ebay. Thanks for your help everybody!!
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If you're selling this **** on eBay make damn sure you tell people you crashed it.

Are you riding w/o clips?
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I had a slight crash at a lower speed a while ago.

My fork was totally cased, but my wheels where totally true. Thanks 36h
However I did find that I needed to replace not the bearings but the bearing shoulder cups.

+1 to getting it all checked over.
Safety first.
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Good to hear that you came out ok.

If the front wheel is really out of true, then even if the shop manages to get it straight, it'll probably never want to stay straight, and might be much weaker. However, new front wheels are pretty cheap. Get some random road front wheel and throw it on.

How did you manage to bend the front brake? I've never seen someone manage to damage a brake caliper in a crash.
I was actually in a crash quite awhile ago on my old bike when it was raining and there was oil/gas/some slickity slick petroleum product on the road, and I bent the hell out of my brake caliper. The two flanges where the cable runs through to make the caliper pivot (sorry I don't know the technical term) were bent probably 45 degrees off from where they should've been. I put the caliper in a vice and bent/smacked the heck out of it and got it functional again.

About the front wheel, the thing with serious crashes is that it can be not only laterally out of true (side to side) but radially out of true (up and down) and if it gets a dent or something, radially speaking, that's going to be really tough to get out, and especially if you're using a brake, you're always going to feel that little hop.
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If you're selling this **** on eBay make damn sure you tell people you crashed it.

Are you riding w/o clips?
Yeah if I sold it on ebay I would make certain any potential buyers knew that. I doubt I would sell the front hub except for parts, but the back wheel seems fine besides being a little out of true(I would still mention the crash).

Also I was riding with toe clips and straps. If I was going slower I would have jumped off but I was afraid of landing on pavement.
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If you trashed the front brake bolt that badly you might want to take a good look at the fork, too. Glad to hear you're (mostly) ok.
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