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    Ben Kersten's Keirin Diary

    I came across a series of diary entries about Keirin racing that may be of interest to some of you. The rider provides some insight on Keirin racing by international riders. It also includes a couple of video clips of his races.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/20...k/?id=benk0705.

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    G'day kensmerlin san
    This is Tomity from Tokyo Japan
    I'm professional Keirin rider
    I met Benny K in International Keirin in Japan 2007 and had sight seeing with his friend in Tokyo Harajuku somewhere
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    That LOOK didn't look NJS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by br995 View Post
    That LOOK didn't look NJS.
    Hello!! br995;5381124

    To our regret, I was not able to take the photograph of bike of NJS of BENNY K.
    LOOK bike is frame for his trainning

    His NJS bike is special custom made steel LOOK frame(one off)

    Tomity

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    That was an informative read. I'd like to learn more about Keirin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoRoK View Post
    That was an informative read. I'd like to learn more about Keirin.
    This is list of all the companies that make njs-certified parts
    It withdraws it is scheduled not to use it in 2008 now though parts of the
    company that gave up one's business can be used.


    SUGINO TECHINO(SUGINO CYCLE INDUSTRIES, Ltd)
    http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/products_e.html
    (BB axle,Cranks,Chainrings,Cogs,Seat post)

    SHIMANO
    http://cycle.shimano.co.jp/publish/c...sic/jp/ja.html
    (BB axle,Cranks,Chainrings,Cogs,Seat post,Hubs,Head fittings)

    HATTA
    http://www.hattass.co.jp/bicycle.html
    (BB axle,Head fittings)

    NITTO
    http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/
    (Bars,Stems,Seat posts)

    KYOKUTO INDUSTRIES, Ltd
    http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~kakumaru/
    (Pedals)

    MIKASHIMA
    http://www.mkspedal.com/
    (Pedals,Toe clips,Clip bands,Chain tugs)

    MINOURA
    http://www.minoura.jp/index_j.htm
    (Toe clips)

    DAIDO (D.I.D.)
    http://www.did-daido.co.jp/
    (Chain)

    HOKOKU H.K.K. CHAIN
    (Chain)

    IZUMI CHAIN
    (Chain)

    FUJITOSHI
    (Clip bands)

    ASAHI SPOKES
    (Spokes)

    TSUKIBOSHI SPOKE
    http://www.tsukiboshi.co.jp/jp/index.html
    (Spokes)

    HOSHISPOKE
    http://www.cycle-kansai.com/company/hoshi/index.html
    (Spokes)

    KASHIMA SADDLE
    (Saddles)

    ARAYA RIMS
    http://www.araya-kk.co.jp/
    (Rims)

    TOKYO SEIBYOSYO
    http://www.tobyo.com/
    (Chain tugs)

    DAIWABO
    http://www.daiwabo.co.jp/english/index.html
    (Tublar Tire)

    TANGE SEIKI
    (finished ?)
    (Head fittings)

    SAKAE RINGYO
    (finished)
    (Cranks,Chainrings,Seat posts)

    ARIAKE
    (finished)
    (Saddles)

    FUJITA SADDLE
    (finished)
    (Saddles)

    KASHIMA SADDLE
    (finished)
    (Saddles)

    SUNSHIN
    (finished)
    (Hubs,Cogs)

    SUZUE
    (2005 finished)
    (Hubs)

    SUNTOUR MAEDA INDUSTRIES, Ltd
    (1994 finished)
    http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%...82%A2%E3%83%BC
    (BB axle,Cranks,Chainrings,Cogs,Seat post,Hubs,Head fittings,Pedals)

    CAMPAGNOLO(Keirin for NJS track parts)
    CAMPAGNOLO was withdrawn from the NJS standard in 2007.
    (BB axle,Cranks,Chainrings,Cogs,Seat post,Hubs,Head fittings,Pedals,Toe clips)

    CINELLI(Keirin for NJS track parts)
    CINELLI was withdrawn from the NJS standard many years ago
    (Saddles,Bars,Stems)



    NJS Keirin track frames(36 builders/2007.May)

    BRIDGSTONE
    http://www.bscycle.co.jp/

    PANASONIC
    http://www.panabyc.co.jp/

    CHERUBIM
    http://www.cs-cherubim.com/

    MAKINO
    http://www.cc.rim.or.jp/~mackino/

    KALAVINKA
    http://www.kalavinka-bikes.com/

    LEVANT

    NAGASAWA
    http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~nagasawa/index.html

    SHIMAZAKI
    http://www.shimazaki-c.co.jp/info/shop.htm

    RAP
    http://www.cycleland.jp/

    LEVEL
    http://www.tokyo-arakawa.com/matsuda/index.html

    KIYO MIYAZAWA
    http://www.kiyo-miyazawa.com/

    PLOCION
    http://www.cf-ono.com/index.html

    PROTON
    cycletec@d6.dion.ne.jp

    BARAMON
    baramon-cdm@mx2.tiki.ne.jp

    VIVALO

    NAMBEI

    EIMEI

    WATANASBE

    UMEZAWA

    SAMSON

    YANAGISAWA

    GAN WELL

    GEORAMA

    CIVLAS

    VOGUE

    IRIBE

    MAEDA

    OSCA

    OHTAKI

    STRATOS

    GIRO

    BOMBER PRO

    ERBA

    PRESTO

    M-IDEA

    LIGHTNNING(2007,maybe finished)

    KEIRIN WEAR,GOODS

    MEDALIST PLANNING
    http://www.rakuten.co.jp/medalist/
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoRoK View Post
    That was an informative read. I'd like to learn more about Keirin.
    I tell you about information of Japanese Velodromes
    There are two kinds of velodromes for amature race and for Keirin
    race(Municipally operated races) in Japan

    There is velodromes of 70 ground in Japan
    As for the velodromes inside for amature, there is 23 ground
    The rest of 47 scene is velodromes for a municipally operated race

    I don't understand the building year of all velodrome
    I examined the location and a lap length

    Velodromes for amature race (23 ground)

    City Velodrome Length

    Aomori Hachinohe Velodrome 333m
    http://www.city.hachinohe.aomori.jp/..._jitensya.html

    Iwate Shiwa Velodrome 333m

    Miyagi Prefectural management Velodrome 400m

    Miyagi Taiwa City Velodrome 333m
    http://www.grande21.or.jp/sports/sports_a6.html

    Akita Rokugo Velodrome 333m
    http://www.grande21.or.jp/sports/sports_a6.html

    Yamagata Shinjyo Cycle Sports Contre 400m

    Fukushima Izumisaki International Cycle Stadium 333m
    http://www.vill.izumizaki.fukushima.jp/kiyobu4.html

    Tokyo Tokyo Dome Stadium(Indoor/Sectional) 400m

    Ishikawa Uchinada Velodrome 400m
    http://www.pref.ishikawa.jp/kyoiku/s...iku/sisetu.htm

    Yamanashi Sakaigawa Velodrome 400m
    http://www.city.fuefuki.yamanashi.jp...etsu.php?id=22

    Nagano Karigane Velodrome 333m

    Shizuoka Japan Cycle Sports Centre 250m

    Shizuoka Japan Cycle Sports Centre 400m

    Shizuoka Nihon Keirin Gakko (Japan Keirin School) 333m

    Shizuoka Nihon Keirin Gakko (Japan Keirin School) 400m

    Osaka Kansai Cycle Sports Centre 400m

    Hyogo Akashi Velodrome 400m
    http://www.kinjikyo.jp/circle/akashi.html

    Tottori Kurayoshi City Velodrome 333m

    Shimane Ota City Velodrome 333m

    Miyazaki Prefectural management Park Velodrome 400m
    http://www3.coara.or.jp/~norihiko/Report/20020825.html

    Kagoshima Nejime Velodrome 400m

    Okinawa Prefectural management Park Velodrome 333m
    http://www.geocities.jp/keirin55/okinawa-bank.htm


    Velodromes for Keirin race (47 ground)

    City Velodrome Length

    Hakodate Hakodate Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=110
    http://keirin.hakodate.jp/

    Aomori Aomori Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=120
    http://www.aomorikeirin.com/index.html

    Fukushima Iwaki Taira Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=130
    http://www.tairakeirin.com/

    Niigata Yahiko Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=210
    http://www.yahikokeirin.com/

    Gunma Maebashi Keirin Velodrome(Indoor) 335m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=220
    http://www.maebashikeirin.gr.jp/

    Ibaraki Toride Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=230
    http://www.toride-keirin.com/

    Tochigi Utsunomiya Keirin Velodrome 500m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=240
    http://www.ucatv.ne.jp/~u-keirin/

    Saitama Omiya Keirin Velodrome 500m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=250
    http://www.keirin-saitama.jp/omiya/

    Saitama Seibuen Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=260
    http://www.keirin-saitama.jp/seibuen/

    Tokyo Keiokaku Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=270
    http://www.keiokaku.com/

    Tokyo Tachikawa Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=280
    http://www.tachikawakeirin.jp

    Chiba Matsudo Keirin Velodrome 333m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=310
    http://www.matsudokeirin.com

    Chiba Chiba Keirin Velodrome 500m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=320
    http://www.chibakeirin.com/

    Kanagawa Kagetsuen Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=330
    http://www.lucky-kagetsukun.com/

    Kanagawa Kawasaki Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=340
    http://www.kawasakikeirin.com/

    Kanagawa Hiratsuka Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=350
    http://www.shonanbank.com/

    Kanagawa Odawara Keirin Velodrome 333m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=360
    http://www.infoworld.co.jp/keirin/odawara/

    Shizuoka Ito Keirin Velodrome 333m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=370
    http://www.itokeirin.com

    Shizuoka Shizuoka Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=380
    http://www.shizuoka38.jp/

    Aichi Ichinomiya Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=410
    http://www.owari.ne.jp/~i-keirin/

    Aichi Nagoya Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=420
    http://www.nagoyakeirin.com

    Gifu Gifu Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=430
    http://gifukeirin.jp

    Gifu Ogaki Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=440
    http://www.ginet.or.jp/ogakikeirin/

    Aichi Toyohashi Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=450
    http://www.keirin.toyohashi.aichi.jp/

    Toyama Toyama Keirin Velodrome 333m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=460
    http://www.toyama-keirin.com/

    Mie Matusaka Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=470
    http://www.city.matsusaka.mie.jp/keirin/

    Mie Yokkaichi Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=480
    http://www.city.yokkaichi.mie.jp/keirin/

    Fukui Fukui Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=510
    http://www1.fctv.ne.jp/~f-keirin/

    Shiga Otsu Keirin Velodrome 500m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=520
    http://www.biwako.otsu.shiga.jp/

    Nara Nara Keirin Velodrome 333m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=530
    http://www.narakeirin.com/

    Kyoto Mukomachi Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=540
    http://www.pref.kyoto.jp/keirin/

    Wakayama Wakayama Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=550
    http://www.keirinwa.com

    Osaka Kishiwada Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=560
    http://www.chalionkun.com

    Okayama Tamano Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=610
    http://www.city.tamano.okayama.jp/keirin/

    Hiroshima Hiroshima Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=620
    http://www.keirin.econ.city.hiroshima.jp/

    Yamaguchi Hofu Keirin Velodrome 333m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=630
    http://www.hofukeirin.jp

    Kagawa Takamatsu Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=710
    http://www.takamatsu-keirin.com/

    Kagawa Kanonji Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=720
    http://www.kanonji-keirin.com/

    Tokushima Komatsushima Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=730
    http://www.pon-star.net/

    Kochi Kochi Keirin Velodrome 500m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=740
    http://www.kochi-keirin.co.jp

    Ehime Matsuyama Keirin Velodrome 500m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=750
    http://www.matsuyamakeirin.jp/

    Fukuoka Kokura Keirin Velodrome(Indoor) 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=810
    http://www.mediadome.co.jp/keirin/

    Fukuoka Kurume Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=830
    http://www.kttnet.co.jp/kurume-keirin/

    Saga Takeo Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=840
    http://www.city.takeo.saga.jp/keirin/

    Nagasaki Sasebo Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=850
    http://www.keirin.city.sasebo.nagasaki.jp

    Oita Beppu Keirin Velodrome 400m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=860
    http://www.coara.or.jp/~keirin

    Kumamoto Kumamoto Keirin Velodrome 500m
    http://www.dataplaza.keirininfo.or.j...o.Jyo3?UCD=870
    http://www.kumamotokeirin.jp/

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    TOMITY -- How was your birthday on the 15th? HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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    The one off Look and the worlds biggest helmets


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    Quote Originally Posted by br995 View Post
    That LOOK didn't look NJS.
    LOOK made Benny K a special steel frame bike to take to Japan. It was white with black logos and had a threadless headstem, which I didn't know they could use?

    The bike was a large step backwards, but nowhere as bad as the helmets.

    All off his bikes are custom made by look (apart from road training bikes)

    Cheers

    EDIT, ahh see above, I am slow at typing.

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    See the other riders with padding, Benny K rode without any and said the tracks are covered in glued on sand so they can still race in the rain if they have too.

    The others dress up like they are racing motorcycles with the padding underneath, they must have bare legs only. They do put plastic bags on their hands and pour all over them with baby oil incase they fall.

    Cheers

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    the guy in the pink has a fake leg.

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    Here is Josiah Ng's keirin diary. Same sort of deal, very informative and insightful.

    http://www.josiahng.com/keirin.html
    Quote Originally Posted by doofo View Post
    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    So the guy is now banned for life?

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    Tomity San! おげんきですか? Thank you again, for your 'inside' information!

    My question is regarding the legality of the LOOK フレーム、ステムとシートピラー

    Are specially invited  外国人 riders allowed to have non-NJS certified frames for one race/or a short time?
    The seat pillar looks black, and the stem does not look like a Nitto NJS stem.....
    Are their different rules for this situation?
    ありがとう
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    Actually I am guessing that he did not race in a Keirin sanctioned (betting) race, so did not need a fully legal NJS certified bike? I saw on the Diary that it was Keirin School.
    My NJS FRAMES and PARTS for sale now.... NJSFRAMES.BLOGSPOT.COM

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    ....or maybe not?!
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    Tomity, that was an excellent and informative post! Thank you for putting in the effort to gather all the information in one place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerlewis View Post
    Tomity San! おげんきですか? Thank you again, for your 'inside' information!

    My question is regarding the legality of the LOOK フレーム、ステムとシートピラー

    Are specially invited  外国人 riders allowed to have non-NJS certified frames for one race/or a short time?
    The seat pillar looks black, and the stem does not look like a Nitto NJS stem.....
    Are their different rules for this situation?
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    um, in this thread we learned that the picture of his CF "look" is just him training. His steel "look" was a one off which he was allowed to race. (not sure if it got stamped njs, but who really cares???) it was his sponser than maybe the "international" njs racers get a little leniency.

    either way, he had a threeadless stem and it seems weird, but my guess is that they lax the rules for the international series.....duh?

    edit. ^disregard drunk post and its awful tone...sorry.
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    Thanks Time Bandit, for your helpful 'um' and 'duh' post.

    My question is for Tomity.
    Time Bandit - (I am with you on the 'international leniency' theory, hence what I earlier posted, but am very interested to hear what
    Japanese Keirin pro riders think of this rule.)
    Everything is so strict that I am surprised he can have LOOK custom
    build him a one-off and race it against pro riders who must have NJS bike frames, stems, seat posts and everything else. I can not see any major problems assuming the frame is cromo and fits into the weight guidelines of NJS rules. Same goes for the seatpost, and stem...I am sure he probably used a heavier than standard item to keep everyone happy.
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    what helmet is this?

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    Catlike Kompact Pro. They cost like $170 now, with the Euro/Dollar exchange rate being what it is.
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    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    hey Kensmerlin thanks for the link! interesting read.

    Tomity, thanks for all that info. you are a treasure!





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    I must say, I went into this thread knowing practically nothing about keirin. After pouring over all that info (Thanks Tomity!) I spent a few hours watching keirin on youtube. I am totally hooked. I wish there was a velodrome near me now

    Thanks again all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathhare View Post
    the guy in the pink has a fake leg.

    I am pretty sure it looks like that because of the lots and lots of baby oil they rub on thier legs.

    I said it in an earlier post, they put plastic bags over their hands and really cover thier legs thick with baby oil. They can wear padding under all the clothes, but must have exposed legs.

    The thick oil is if they fall it helps save the legs, the tracks are covered in sand that is glued on. Sand is so the race still happens in bad weather, and the riders still have grip.

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