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Old 07-13-07, 11:22 PM   #1
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Paging mr white

mr white or anybody else, what kind of adapter is is on the disc on this bike?

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...ndyWhite_2.htm


I need some kind of freewheel to track adapter for my disc, I know that HED makes one but it lacks lockring threads (this will only be used on the track so i don't know if it makes a differnce, does it?) I know a guy at work has one that has set screws and is theaded for a lockring and he says it works great. I am looking for more options, any suggestions?
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if its only on the track than no lockring is needed(no backpressure is applied)
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Old 07-14-07, 05:05 AM   #3
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if its only on the track than no lockring is needed(no backpressure is applied)
The person in the link was a courier. Plenty of backpressure, I'd assume.

I'm getting ahold of a HED Disc. It's threaded for a freewheel; I'll be making it a suicide hub with RED loctite and possibly also a bottom bracket lockring. For almost all uses this will be fine, including for backpedalling.

The trade-off is that the red ain't ever coming off; if you need to replace the cog, you need to replace the whole axle assembly.
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i don't think that the red stuff is really that strong....not ever coming off...
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The trade-off is that the red ain't ever coming off; if you need to replace the cog, you need to replace the whole axle assembly.
Thats what I thought too...it's not the case.
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It is considered to be a 'permanent' bond, requiring tools and 'localized heat' if it ever needs to come off.

JB Weld would also be another 'permanent' option, although I'd prefer loctite because you could theoretically remove it later without damaging the wheel if you wanted.

The one in the picture is probably the one your friend at the shop mentioned - it's obviously held in place with set screws. (edit: from the description, he rigged this up himself. maybe contact the gonz lab for details).
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It is considered to be a 'permanent' bond, requiring tools and 'localized heat' if it ever needs to come off.
Reverse rotafix and a hair dryer should work out just fine for tools and localized heat.
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Reverse rotafix and a hair dryer should work out just fine for tools and localized heat.
Red loctite needs to be raised above 300 degrees. A hair dryer isn't going to do ****.

I still haven't installed my cog on my disc yet but I think loctite is my only option. I run brakes though.

I just had an idea...what if I just run it with a freewheel??? I love riding fixed but I don't want to damage the wheel or my face.
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i've used red loctite on lots of nuts and bolts on cars and was always able to break them loose with a simple ratchet that is shorter than most chain whips...no air tools or heat or anything.
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Red loctite needs to be raised above 300 degrees. A hair dryer isn't going to do ****.

I still haven't installed my cog on my disc yet but I think loctite is my only option. I run brakes though.

I just had an idea...what if I just run it with a freewheel??? I love riding fixed but I don't want to damage the wheel or my face.

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Originally Posted by blickblocksRed loctite needs to be raised above 300 degrees. A hair dryer isn't going to do ****.

I still haven't installed my cog on my disc yet but I think loctite is my only option. I run brakes though.

I just had an idea...what if I just run it with a freewheel??? I love riding fixed but I don't want to damage the wheel or my face.






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Then you aren't using it correctly. It helps if you have clean threads. I wouldn't run brakeless with a suicide hub, but I have never had any trouble with one.

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i've used red loctite on lots of nuts and bolts on cars and was always able to break them loose with a simple ratchet that is shorter than most chain whips...no air tools or heat or anything.
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I've always thought JB Weld and a Miche cog carrier would be a good idea. The BB lockring only holds the cog onto the carrier, which takes all the pedaling forces.
Never tried it though.
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Also, his email is listed there. you could try emailing him.
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You can get them from Sheldon Brown.
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You can get them from Sheldon Brown.

are they listed on his site because i cant seem to find it?
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mr white or anybody else, what kind of adapter is is on the disc on this bike?

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...ndyWhite_2.htm


I need some kind of freewheel to track adapter for my disc, I know that HED makes one but it lacks lockring threads (this will only be used on the track so i don't know if it makes a differnce, does it?) I know a guy at work has one that has set screws and is theaded for a lockring and he says it works great. I am looking for more options, any suggestions?

oops. hello.

Gonz (LAB) machined it to accomodate two bolts either side which thread INTO the body. This was a permenant solution as I dont ever see a use for a freewheel, and I can change cogs easily. He also used blue loctite.

Ive worked on it a lot, it's never coming off

But im pretty slow so...

ride safe.
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So the whole thing is a custom job?

Any chance Gonz LAB will make one for me ?
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