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Old 07-14-07, 12:23 AM   #1
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question regarding locks..

yeah i am sure its been posted to death but i just want to see what the general rule of thumb is.

i dont lock up my bike outside at night. the longest i would leave it out would be probably for around 4 or 5 hours in an area not too high in crime..with people walking the streets. but bikes do get stolen here for sure.

right now i am using a krypto evo mini and was thinking about getting a longer version...the 9.25" to put it thru the rear wheel, frame and meter or whatever while i use my mini for the front wheel and frame only. would you guys feel safe with this set up...my bike is probably worth about 750...so its not high end but not a beater for sure..

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Old 07-14-07, 12:28 AM   #2
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just to be clear, you keep your bike inside at night, you don't leave it unlocked outside as your post suggests? i would feel safe with that. today i purposely tried to break my u lock with some bolt cutters with 4ft handles and i tried to pry it open with a 6 foot long concrete chisel, and was completely unable to harm it. based on that anecdote from sh!tstain oregon, i'de say your bike should be completely safe in nyc.

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Old 07-14-07, 01:03 AM   #3
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Yeah....sorry...I bring it inside at night.
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Old 07-14-07, 03:09 AM   #4
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Watch out for angle grinders.
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Old 07-14-07, 09:07 AM   #5
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That dual u setup is about as good as it gets IMO. If your bars, stem, seat and/ or seat post are nice and you are paranoid you might wanna krazyglue a ball bearing in the allen key heads after you've dialled the fit.
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Yeah....sorry...I bring it inside at night.
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Old 07-14-07, 10:22 AM   #7
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That dual u setup is about as good as it gets IMO. If your bars, stem, seat and/ or seat post are nice and you are paranoid you might wanna krazyglue a ball bearing in the allen key heads after you've dialled the fit.
But if you did that, how would you ever change *****?
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But if you did that, how would you ever change *****?
Acetone + needle + a few minutes of picking. This is not too hard for you but ideally a pain in the ass for your typical bike thief who will move on to easier pickings.
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Acetone + needle + a few minutes of picking. This is not too hard for you but ideally a pain in the ass for your typical bike thief who will move on to easier pickings.
This is just asking for it imho. If you have a nice setup with stuff that cannot be locked down without resorting to ball bearings - it's better just to swap out that stuff for generic, no name, non flashy stuff. No headaches this way, and it doesn't attract attention.
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so, you just take a ball bearing and superglue into the hex screw/bolt heads? what kind of ball bearings? like BB's?
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so, you just take a ball bearing and superglue into the hex screw/bolt heads? what kind of ball bearings? like BB's?
don't use BB's. thieves can cut right through them. they make special ball bearings for this purpose. if i remember right, the company is called Ball Protectors (google search). you give them the make and model of your bike and they send you a complete set of high quality ball bearings for each hex hole. costs almost 100$, but a replacement part would cost at least that much so its really worth it. also, i recommend welding the balls in place.

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mini through the front wheel/frame and a regular size through the rear wheel/frame/pole is about as safe as you're going to get. either that or a gigantor chain and mini-u. either way, you never know when someone is really going to want that bike.
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Pay no attention to sizzlechest Bionnakki, any old ballbearing that fits will work. Next time you overhaul your hubs you can get a nice supply. For someone like me whose brooks and old DA post cost as much as his back wheel, this approach makes some sense.

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yeah..i have some nice components and i dont want to get rid of them and get some no name stuff..i would go with the ball bearing set up.

im actually just really torn between a larger u-lock. maybe the 4x8 ny lock or a 3' evo disk chain lock...i mean the chain is just really heavy..
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Read this:

http://www.mechbgon.com/lock/index.html

and this:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
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Thanks! Both of those were very helpful.
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