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    Bridgestone or Nagasawa frame?

    I recently sold my De Bernardi track bike and I'm looking into purchasing a new bike. I'm stuck deciding between a Bridgestone and Nagasawa frame. I'm a big fan of vintage Italian and Japanese frames, so I wanted to get some additional thoughts on what would be the best route to take. Note - the Nagasawa frame is slightly more (200-300) than the Bridgestone. Thanks in advance.

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    Nagasawa...

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    Get the one that fits you the best.

    Never ridden one? Just get the one that matches your clothes.

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    the nagasawa definitely has more cachet than a bridgestone, but i highly doubt that you'll notice any non-fit related differences in ride quality. As suggested by 1fluffhead, get the one that fits you the best, if there is any difference.

    i would recommend finding out the tube sets of each as that might be something that factors into a decision. it's worth noting that some tubesets used on keirin frames aren't meant to be ridding by anyone much over 140-150lbs.

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    all,

    thanks for the feedback so far... I'm actually looking into the following frames...
    Last edited by ryanone; 07-18-07 at 08:34 AM.

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    i would definitely get the bridgestone

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    which one fits?
    they bridgestone is appreciably bigger than the naga
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    the stand over height for both frames are in my size range, the difference between the 2 are less than a centimeter... unfortunately, I don't have direct access to the frames/bikes... so I'm basing the size off of the stand over height...

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    standover is meaningless.

    the Bridgestone's TT is 2cm longer.
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    I'm 5'8", so the TT should be okay... in addition, i received some feedback from the seller, the Bridgestone tubing is Kaisei 019 double butted CrMo....

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    http://keirinculture.com/
    no new frames yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanone
    I'm 5'8", so the TT should be okay...
    The tt is substantially different on the two bikes.

    It sounds like you're pretty clueless about which one will fit you.

    Spending two thousand dollars on a bike that you can't say will fit you well is really stupid.

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    The TT on my De Bernardi was 56cm... and it was just right, pushing it a little though... so 53-55 would give me a little bit more breathing room...

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    The bidding has ended for the Nagasawa.

    The Bridgestone seems like the best choice for you to get.

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    the winner of the auction for the Nagasawa backed out... and i was next in line to buy the bike...

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    nagasawa. from what ive seen, everyone around here who has a japanese frame usually has a bridgestone or samson, hardly ever see nagasawas. cant wait to get the rest of the parts for mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by barto
    nagasawa. from what ive seen, everyone around here who has a japanese frame usually has a bridgestone or samson, hardly ever see nagasawas.
    best reason ever.

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    Let's see. This is a broad guess and has no substantiated claim in hard fact (so don't bash me, bonechilling), but Bridgestone is a large company, and Nagasawa is a smaller one, so possibly Nagasawa puts a little more time into hand-building their frames?

    Nagasawa is also considered, along with 3rensho, one of the best keirin frame builders.

    I've owned a Bridgestone NJS, it was a mighty fine frame, no complaints. Nice track geometry, nice lugs, nice feel.

    Kaisei makes some nice tubing, I'm a fan of it. The Kaisei 8630 is the best, though, and as soon as a frame goes up on keirinculture or eBay with that stuff, I'm keen on getting it for myself.

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    why is it the best

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    BRIDGESTONE! all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coelcanth View Post
    why is it the best
    I said considered, I've never ridden one. I'm sure the worksmanship and time that he puts into a frame is top notch and that's why he has the reputation.

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    Get 'em both and make a NJS tall bike.

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    I'm pretty embarrassed for this whole thread to be honest.

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    Yeah right! Is this question meaningful?

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    i meant why is "The Kaisei 8630... the best"

    Quote Originally Posted by andre nickatina View Post
    I said considered, I've never ridden one. I'm sure the worksmanship and time that he puts into a frame is top notch and that's why he has the reputation.

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