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Any of you guys run internally geared hubs?

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Old 07-20-07, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by heyjaffy
dang, I'd buy 2 at that price - do you have the seller's ID?
I looked in my ebay past purchases file and could not fine the seller. I bought the hub back in Sep. of 2006. did see the same hub for sale last month, from the same seller, when I was looking for a different shifter for this bike. I will check my papypal account and see if I can find it. I use "shimano nexus" as the search parameter on ebay and it comes up in one of the ebay stores.

Edit: Here it is:

Ebay ID:bikestopsales
Seller's Email: sales@ebikestop.com


I also made one for my wife w/ a nexus 7 speed and an old Raleigh mixte for an around town bike:

[IMG][/IMG]

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Old 07-20-07, 09:04 AM
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Here they are.

https://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...raba/bike1.jpg
https://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...raba/bike2.jpg
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I've got 3 speeds in a Raleigh 20, and a tandem, and the FW four speed in my roadster, and the FM close ratio four speed in an HR Bates that I plan to restore. The service interval on the old AW hubs is about 50 years or more, in reality. It's rare to need to rebuild them. The other place I'd love to have an internal hub would be in a cargo bike, like this one:

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Originally Posted by blickblocks
I helped one of the designers where I'm interning put together his Schwinn Grey Ghost, and I was surprised by the 8 speed Sturmy-Archer. Has a drum brake. The front hub/drum brake has some wicked looking flanges.
Ratios are a bit strange.

from https://www.sturmey-archer.com/tech_8spd_XRF8.php
• Overall Range - 305%
• Gear 1 - 1.00 (Direct Drive)
• Gear 2 - 1.28 (+28%)
• Gear 3 - 1.45 (+45%)
• Gear 4 - 1.64 (+64%)
• Gear 5 - 1.86 (+86%)
• Gear 6 - 2.10 (+110%)
• Gear 7 - 2.38 (+138%)
• Gear 8 - 3.05 (+205%)

Having the lowest gear as direct drive probably isn't ideal unless you have a folding bike with tiny wheels.
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Originally Posted by d_D
Ratios are a bit strange.

Having the lowest gear as direct drive probably isn't ideal unless you have a folding bike with tiny wheels.
Yep.. that's why I ruled out the SA hub. For the right gear inches, I would need a tiny, tiny front chainring and a gi-normous rear cog. I think Shimano's Nexus, with direct drive in the middle, it a better thoughtout product.
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id love a Rohloff (or other internally-geared) mountain bike

I have an SS mountain-bike...which is great for trail riding.. but in my new cities, the people ride MUP connectors to the actual trail.. and after a few hours on the trail, trying to keep up on the MUP is really painful on 2:1 gear ratio
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Originally Posted by redfooj
id love a Rohloff (or other internally-geared) mountain bike

I have an SS mountain-bike...which is great for trail riding.. but in my new cities, the people ride MUP connectors to the actual trail.. and after a few hours on the trail, trying to keep up on the MUP is really painful on 2:1 gear ratio
I've seen this trick somewhere, and I think it's wonderful: have two chainrings and two cogs. White industries makes a freewheel with two cogs, but a cheaper and even longer-lasting solution is to use one of those singlespeed-conversion kits with several rings for the freehub. Some of these conversion kits have only two "rings" or spacers, that won't work for this. Anyhow, two chainrings and two cogs, you can chose them so that your rear wheel can stay more or less at the same place, while you can set up the traveling vs. mountaneering ratio, all the while maintaining a correct chainline.
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Originally Posted by Sammyboy
I've got 3 speeds in a Raleigh 20, and a tandem, and the FW four speed in my roadster, and the FM close ratio four speed in an HR Bates that I plan to restore. The service interval on the old AW hubs is about 50 years or more, in reality. It's rare to need to rebuild them.

Which hub gear do you use on the tandem??

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It's an AW. It's fine for round near where I live, but a recent holiday in the Purbecks proved to me that I want a derailleur geared tandem where there's climbing to do.
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Actually, let me just speak very strongly in favour of the old 4 speed SA hubs, in case you find one. I've got an FG on an old Raleigh roadster that I was riding today, and it's great. (the FG is the generator version of the FW, or four speed wide ratio). It doesn't go up quite as high as the AW, but it goes lower, and the overall range is slightly greater. I find it much easier to get the right ratio, and for the little bits of climbing I had to do today, I was loving the lowest gear. Subjectively, it feels about the same gearing in 4th as my tandem does in 3rd, but 1st seems way lower, which is great for climbing. Of course, today I wasn't climbing for 2 miles straight, and neither did I have a newly pregnant woman with little energy for pedalling to pull up the hill on the back, but it did make me wish I'd had an FW on the tandem....
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Just built up a Bianchi San JosGR8. Nexus Red Band with 8 speeds. So far about 100 miles on it. Total weight isn't as bad as I thought it would be (24 pounds). Only drag is the shifter, but otherwise, the hub is pretty sweet.







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How did you mount the twist shifter like that?
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Nice bike sucka! Man it truly is too bad that the 8speed nexus has such a fugly shifter. Can anyone quickly explain why you can't just use a regular lever?
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Originally Posted by fender1
Thanks. No heel strike at all. I have a size 12 shoe and have used spd clipleess and mks touring platform pedals at different times. The rack is the reason. It is the Jandd Expidition which is 3" longer than a regular rack. I was not wild about the look of it but it carries a ton of stuff and I have never had any issue w/ heel strike. I just wish they made it silver.
Thought so, that clearance looks great. I would love a rack I could run on my short chainstay road fix with lots of clearance. As is I have to watch how i load my panniers or i get heel strike. I would also love to see that rack in silver.
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I've had a 3 speed w/o coaster brake as a kid. Never needed maintenance as far as I can recall, but ****ty rim brakes on steel wheels were terrible, a coaster brake would have been better... I'd love a fixed 14 speed Rohloff tho... So sexy.
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Originally Posted by MIN
How did you mount the twist shifter like that?
Not much to it. Just put a mtb bar end on. I should have just used a Cane Creek aero bar (after shortening it, of course) cause it would have been clamped on versus muscling the bar end on there.
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Originally Posted by mander
Nice bike sucka! Man it truly is too bad that the 8speed nexus has such a fugly shifter. Can anyone quickly explain why you can't just use a regular lever?
I was told by a Shimano rep that it wasn't possible cause "the pull on the shifter had to be exact on the hub, otherwise it would mess up the internals". Seeing as I didn't want to mess around with it, I stuck with the proprietary nexus grip shifter.

If you look around the internet, you'll find other folks using friction shifters/downtube shifters with no problems. I just wanted to play it safe.
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Yeah I'd be sorely tempted to throw a DA barcon on it in friction mode.
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Originally Posted by mander
Yeah I'd be sorely tempted to throw a DA barcon on it in friction mode.
It requires an indexed shifter and the correct amount of cable pull. Neither a friction or 8 speed index derailer shifter will work. The Nexus 7 speed hub had a thumb shifter, the the 8 speed is a better hub.

Here's how the new SA 3 speed fits my Carlton with 120mm spacing. There enough excess axle that you could space it out to at least 126mm, maybe even 130mm. The chainline is going to be dead on.


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Originally Posted by keraba
I have a bike that I switch between fixed gear and 3-speed (Shimano Nexus). I love it. Let's me ride easier with the 3x9 crowd.

I know the traditional saying in this forum is, "You only need one." but I tell them, "You only need 3 - uphill, downhill and flat." and they still think I'm crazy...until I beat them up the last hill.

I don't see a shift cable on that hub. Am I missing it ?
It comes out of the "nut".
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i'm rockin' a rohloff 14 speed hub on a karate monkey. i love it like a son. i rode it to work today. expensive, but worth it. like a divorce.
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You can index shift a 3-speed hub with a left-hand (front derailleur), non-trim triple STI lever.

The SRAM P5 Cargo hub is rated for tandems. Just the Cargo version of this hub, not the regular P5.

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Originally Posted by Sammyboy
It's an AW. It's fine for round near where I live, but a recent holiday in the Purbecks proved to me that I want a derailleur geared tandem where there's climbing to do.
What is an AW?


Originally Posted by tcs
The SRAM P5 Cargo hub is rated for tandems. Just the Cargo version of this hub, not the regular P5.
Thanks a lot for the advice! Indeed, I found also hubgear.net mentions it.
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
What is an AW?
A model of Sturmey Archer three speed hub. Very common model, production began in 1937 and continues today (with the improved AW-NIG version). Ratios are 3/4, 1/1, 4/3.

See:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer.html

https://www.sturmey-archer.com/hubs_3spd.php

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