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Old 08-05-07, 01:58 PM   #1
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Seeing a keirin race in japan?

I'm going to be in japan - Tokyo and Kyoto - in early September and would love to go bet on a keirin race. Do these things run in sept? Anyone been before? Any info from knowledgable heads would be awesome. Thx!
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Old 08-05-07, 03:50 PM   #2
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I`m in Japan right now visiting relatives and I saw Keirin racing twice last week in Yahiko (Niigata prefecture). I love the irony of how Keirin/NJS is percieved as this trendy hipsterish thing, but the people going to see Keirin are really just a bunch of ugly retired chainsmokers who are addicted to gambling. No one there really cares or knows anything about the bikes or cycling. Its kinda sad, really. If you want to take photos you have to be sneaky about it...apparently photos are not allowed, at least not at the track I was at.
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I`m in Japan right now visiting relatives and I saw Keirin racing twice last week in Yahiko (Niigata prefecture). I love the irony of how Keirin/NJS is percieved as this trendy hipsterish thing, but the people going to see Keirin are really just a bunch of ugly retired chainsmokers who are addicted to gambling. No one there really cares or knows anything about the bikes or cycling. Its kinda sad, really. If you want to take photos you have to be sneaky about it...apparently photos are not allowed, at least not at the track I was at.

Can't compare the two. The frames and the fans. Yes old guys there for profit. Some do know the quality of the frames.


No photos allowed at all but you can get away with it.

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How do they avoid cheating in Keirin? I've always wondered if it is all just a pack of cheaters throwing races all day. Does anyone know of any big cheating scandals over there?
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These ironies, etc are all well and good--but in the end I a) love to gamble b) love to chainsmoke and c) love to look at cool bikes, so I really want to see a race.

Anyone have any info on times or even the names of the 'dromes in the Tokyo (or Kyoto) area? Mihlbach can you ask your folks ?

Thanks guys.
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How do they avoid cheating in Keirin? I've always wondered if it is all just a pack of cheaters throwing races all day. Does anyone know of any big cheating scandals over there?
The racers live in a dormitory and are basically only allowed to go out, make phone calls, etc. at certain times of the day. Their lives are very closely monitored to try to prevent cheating.
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These ironies, etc are all well and good--but in the end I a) love to gamble b) love to chainsmoke and c) love to look at cool bikes, so I really want to see a race.

Anyone have any info on times or even the names of the 'dromes in the Tokyo (or Kyoto) area?
All you request is in the Track Racing forum.

Similar crowd at the Montgomery, AL dog track as my local Keirin track.
Enjoy viewing, I always did!!!

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to get you started...

current day's races, all japan> http://keirin.jp/pc/dfw/dataplaza/guest/top

current month's races, all japan> http://keirin.jp/pc/dfw/dataplaza/guest/racecalendar

kanto area races> http://www.kanto.or.jp/schedule/kannai/index.htm

kinki tracks> http://www.kinjikyo.jp/link.html#keirin

p.s. all in japanese.
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