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Old 08-05-07, 08:57 PM   #1
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newb buying a Madison...good deal?

I am looking to get my first single speed and the Performance bikes by me has them on sale for $420, and -20% for "team" members. Do you guys think this is a good deal. I was going to do a conversion but don't have a lot of space/time in which to do it. Hoping to stay <$500.

Also... I'm about 6' with a 32" inseam. What size would you recommend on the Madison as they only have a small in stock and are going to order me another size.
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Old 08-05-07, 09:07 PM   #2
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32" inseam is probably a 56cm for a track bike. If you get the team discount, go for it. Looks like a decent wheelset. Just make sure to have the cog/lockring and spokes checked by a pro before you ride.
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Old 08-05-07, 09:22 PM   #3
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Thanks for the opinion... I think I'm going to go do it.
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Not too much competition at that price range- at $300-$350 BikesDirect rides slot in below, and Langsters and Pistas are a good chunk of change more money (like $600+). I would take one over a Fuji Track. Plus, it's a very good looking bike. Just don't get the small- I'm 5'10" and a 56 Langster is good for me (fit is a little on the long side with the 110mm stem flipped down, but I like it that way), so 56 should work for you. What do the S/M/L/XL correspond to in cm?
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Where do you live? This interests me too. Not on the website.
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Old 08-05-07, 10:13 PM   #6
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I just got back from the store (I'm in Pasadena, CA) and didn't come home with a bike. It is going to take them 2 weeks to get it. The sale lasts for another week so I may go back if I can't find anything better soon. And the 20% is store credit for more stuff, not on the bike... booo.

I don't know what s,m,l means... there is only a little info on the schwinn site (http://www.schwinnbike.com/products/...ail.php?id=724)

I think I'm going with a large (standover height 84.2cm)
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Old 08-05-07, 10:45 PM   #7
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32" inseam is probably a 56cm for a track bike. If you get the team discount, go for it. Looks like a decent wheelset. Just make sure to have the cog/lockring and spokes checked by a pro before you ride.
I'm about 6' with a 32"-34" inseam and ride 60ish frames. Kinda hard to size someone over the internet.

Ordering "large" is probably a good idea, thermite.
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I saw a madison at my LBS the thing ways a ton compared to my pista. My pistas pretty light though with my set up.
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A 56cm frame for someone 6' ? that's ********
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Also... I'm about 6' with a 32" inseam.
umm...yeah
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A 56cm frame for someone 6' ? that's ********
Says who? I'm 5'10" and almost bought a 54, and I have normal proportions. To the OP: Listen to us for a ballpark, but make sure you ride it first (even if it means they have to order you another one- worth it in the long run).
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If my bike got jacked, I would just go buy a madison. For that money, if you don't like it, sell it. they're good looking bikes, and certainly no worse than many bikes out there.
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Unless we're talking top tube length, any sizing discussion is meaningless internet jabbering.
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the madison comes in s. m l, xl;
the large is 56

http://www.schwinnbike.com/products/...ail.php?id=724
sorry, tried to copy the table, but it didn't work
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I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam, and the people at performance bikes sold me a 56cm. It rides pretty nicely.. I have a Fuji Track.
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i recently bought a madison, pretty much for the nostalgia factor, its a beautiful looking bike and its sweet that schwinn brought it back. buyer beware though, it is clunky, i've just been trying to make it lighter and lighter, i only like using it for small rides for now. the wheel set is nice though, and it does come with some other appealing parts. the headset/stem are ugly. if youre going solely for a light frame, i would maybe consider a fuji as a starter instead, that did me real nice for my first track bike, and i still have it. good luck with it though, it is a head turner of a bike.
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$420 plus 20% back is awesome for the madison, spend the $80 on a lock and helmet the next day, or get a carbon fork if you already have that stuff. It is heavy, but the CF fork would help a lot. Also, replace the fixed cog and lock ring, they're total junk.

Most performance stores have at least one person around who can actually fit a bike for you.
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Unless we're talking top tube length, any sizing discussion is meaningless internet jabbering.
You're neglecting saddle-to-bar drop. a 56cm top tube is great for my short torso, but my long legs necessitate a 60-ish cm seat tube. I prefer altering reach by swapping stems.
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The one thing I would never replace on the madison is the fork. I base this on absolutely nothing other than the fact that that thing is sweet looking. By far my favorite part of that bike.
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Had I a couple of extra hundred dollars laying around, I would have snagged a Madison so quick it would have friction burned the hands of the bike story guy handing it to me.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a couple of extra hundred dollars laying around, so I got something else.

(Not that I don't love my new bike, but I lust after a Madison.)
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i love my madison, i have to fine tune it so its a more comfortable ride for me, i.e. adjust the seat just right, im not used to it, my other bike a de bernardi and thats like comparing a pebble to a big rock. i actually did replace the fork on mine, though im still holding on to it, because it is really ****in sweet. but i tried to shed some weight and went with a more traditional track fork, all chrome too (spicercycles). i've never been a fan of the straight fork either. i put on some sweet red powder coat track bars too. but i got truvativ team risers for it, that im gonna paint red. i cant go back to track bars after risers especially in the city, atleast not without grips. all in all im really glad i have my madison even if it is a chunky baby.
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i actually did replace the fork on mine, though im still holding on to it, because it is really ****in sweet. but i tried to shed some weight and went with a more traditional track fork, all chrome too (spicercycles). i've never been a fan of the straight fork either. i put on some sweet red powder coat track bars too. but i got truvativ team risers for it, that im gonna paint red.
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i recently bought a madison, pretty much for the nostalgia factor, its a beautiful looking bike and its sweet that schwinn brought it back. buyer beware though, it is clunky, i've just been trying to make it lighter and lighter, i only like using it for small rides for now. the wheel set is nice though, and it does come with some other appealing parts. the headset/stem are ugly. if youre going solely for a light frame, i would maybe consider a fuji as a starter instead, that did me real nice for my first track bike, and i still have it. good luck with it though, it is a head turner of a bike.

I bought the American made original. It was designed for both road and track riding. Unlike track bikes, it has a road geometry and brake mounts. The brakes can be easily removed for the track. I'll probably switch the wheels for a Mavic set I have and install cushier tires. What's really cool about the Madison is that Frost White paint scheme. Its definitely has sex appeal.
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I'm guessing the butted chromoly tubes are the reason why this bike weighs so much?

I too desire this bicycle dearly, but I'd replace all the parts with the ones off the frame I have now. That is my major hurdle, I wish I could just buy the frame.
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