cheap three, four, or five spoke wheels?
08-13-07, 11:09 AM
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I am curious, and maybe this is better suited for the road or track forum, where discussion favors speed rather than aesthetics, but how do modern carbon Zipp/Hed "traditionally" spoked carbon-wheels compare with a standard Hed (or Specialized, in my case) tri-spoke for track racing? I'm sure that some cycling magazines have wrote it up, but I can't find anything on the topic, and searching for "Zipp" and "Hed" on the forums yields a mind-blowing number of hits.
There is a lot of aero stuff on there page too if you want to read some propaganda.
08-13-07, 11:19 AM
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I am curious, and maybe this is better suited for the road or track forum, where discussion favors speed rather than aesthetics, but how do modern carbon Zipp/Hed "traditionally" spoked carbon-wheels compare with a standard Hed (or Specialized, in my case) tri-spoke for track racing?
08-13-07, 01:09 PM
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[QUOTE=MIN;5055534]Has anyone heard of Aerospokes failing? They weigh so much, I expect them to be beefy. Their site mentions the fact that Aerospokes are designed to be flexy to accomodate for lateral forces - so it won't break catestrophically.
A kid here broke his at the spoke/rim joint in 1hr 24mins. Came down from a pop-up and the thing shattered/snapped fairly dramatically.
It was brand new and the shop he ordered it from has forwarded it to aerospoke for warranty. He hasn't heard from them for months... I'm curious as to whether they will honour it.
It made a lot of people here wary of them... but recent experiences seem to be proving that you can progress your riding and not have them break.
I've seen shots (and the aftermath) of a bike-car collision that folded the downtube and top tube and left the A-spoke intact.
A kid here broke his at the spoke/rim joint in 1hr 24mins. Came down from a pop-up and the thing shattered/snapped fairly dramatically.
It was brand new and the shop he ordered it from has forwarded it to aerospoke for warranty. He hasn't heard from them for months... I'm curious as to whether they will honour it.
It made a lot of people here wary of them... but recent experiences seem to be proving that you can progress your riding and not have them break.
I've seen shots (and the aftermath) of a bike-car collision that folded the downtube and top tube and left the A-spoke intact.
08-13-07, 01:49 PM
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I can't see how a wheel would cause me to be blown off the road, if i'm not being blow off the road already by wearing a gigantic mess bag.
08-13-07, 02:07 PM
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08-13-07, 02:10 PM
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As I am sure you are aware, the Specialized tri-spokes are heavier than the HED3's of current (I guess that is one difference). I know, I have both. The HED3 trispokes are still the most aero non-disk wheel out there but they are not light. From what I understand, the dimpled ZIPP 808's are nearly as aero but way lighter which has advantages in itself. So when comparing the two, it comes down to what the course is going to look like. If there is no wind and the course is flat, I would go trispokes. If it is hilly/windy, I would go 808's.
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I was actually going to say "exception maybe being a disc wheel" but i left it off.
I just find it hard to believe that a 3, 4, or 5 spoke wheel could possibly be significantly less aero than me.
I just find it hard to believe that a 3, 4, or 5 spoke wheel could possibly be significantly less aero than me.
08-13-07, 03:46 PM
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They are. Your bag is a few dozen square inches when viewed from the side and wraps around your body. Tripling the depth of the rim and using giant spokes is a much much bigger differnce. To make matters worse any wind that hits it will not only push the bike to one side but turn the wheel in the same direction. Even moderately deep 45mm spoked rim pulls much more noticebly in cross winds or when you're being passed by a truck that a box section or slightly aero shape. Tri spokes are much worse.
08-13-07, 04:09 PM
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I have a set of zipp 404s from ~2000 i think, the rear is cracked and the front spokes are starting to pull through. Be Careful
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08-13-07, 05:50 PM
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There is massive crosswind between buildings here and I very definitely noticed it going from regular rims to Deep-Vs. Enough to feel a push....
