Helmet identification help, pls...
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Helmet identification help, pls...
Been looking at the photos and trying to figure out what helmet this is. It looks like a baseball cap (hmm, could it be a horse riding helmet??) I did some basic forum searching and google searching with no luck thus far. So I entreat you to help me out. Please follow the links below to see what I am talking about. And while there, check out this photographer's other pictures as there are some pretty cool ones there too.
Thanks
https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=6
https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=7
https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=8
https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=9
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https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=6
https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=7
https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=8
https://www.tobiasromaniuk.com/photob...hp?showimage=9
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Sure does look like an equestrian helmet to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_helmet
https://www.horse-rider-etc.com/merch...tegory_Code=TH
Edit: Surferbruce beat me to it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_helmet
https://www.horse-rider-etc.com/merch...tegory_Code=TH
Edit: Surferbruce beat me to it.
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specialized(i think?) makes a helmet that looks a lot like a world war 1 era helmet. if you're looking for that style, instead of that specific one.
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=30044
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=30044
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Having had equestrian helmets in the past (for equestrian purposes) I have to say that the brim looks too hat-like in the brim to be an equestrian helmet. I could be wrong, though.
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specialized(i think?) makes a helmet that looks a lot like a world war 1 era helmet. if you're looking for that style, instead of that specific one.
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=30044
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=30044
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see, that is what I thought too (after looking at equestrian helmets). If that really is a helmet meant for cycling, then I love it and want to find it.
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It's not an equestrian helmet; their brims are smaller. It's a kayaking helmet
https://www.predatorhelmets.com/whitewater.html
Faecking English riders!. Lol.
https://www.predatorhelmets.com/whitewater.html
Faecking English riders!. Lol.
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It's not an equestrian helmet; their brims are smaller. It's a kayaking helmet
https://www.predatorhelmets.com/whitewater.html
Faecking English riders!. Lol.
https://www.predatorhelmets.com/whitewater.html
Faecking English riders!. Lol.
Thanks a ton. But, I thought they were in Canada in those pictures?
so...Faecking Canadian riders???
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Kyaking helmets would probably be strong enough for bike use, but stuff like that is designed with the idea that the user is going to be wet or at least able to cool off. On a bike that thing would roast your noggin in like 10 min, and in the winter it would get damp in there fast.
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But thanks for addressing the part I cared about too. IMHO I figure you have the same thing with any helmet if you fall face first (protects the forehead, but you still smack your nose, mouth, etc). I actually thought that since the brim was integrated it might actually keep you from smacking all your face into the ground and have just your chin swing down. And I would prefer a busted chin to knocked out teeth and flat nose. And yes, I realize that if it is a hard enough hit, the brim would just break or the helmet would push back on your head and goodbye teeth.
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Kyaking helmets would probably be strong enough for bike use, but stuff like that is designed with the idea that the user is going to be wet or at least able to cool off. On a bike that thing would roast your noggin in like 10 min, and in the winter it would get damp in there fast.
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But thanks for addressing the part I cared about too. IMHO I figure you have the same thing with any helmet if you fall face first (protects the forehead, but you still smack your nose, mouth, etc). I actually thought that since the brim was integrated it might actually keep you from smacking all your face into the ground and have just your chin swing down. And I would prefer a busted chin to knocked out teeth and flat nose. And yes, I realize that if it is a hard enough hit, the brim would just break or the helmet would push back on your head and goodbye teeth.
As for the safety, it'd be a real concern to me. Even if the visor snapped off, it'd probably shatter, and tiny shards of high-impact plastic near the eyes seems like a bad thing. If it didn't snap, it'd probably jack a rider's head back, or [if the fall was oblique] would force the head to turn sharply, which could really damage the spine/neck. All in all, seems like a bad idea. Somebody correct me if they know better...
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I dunno, they're not quite the "crack like an eggshell" design that bike helmets have, but I'd imagine they can take a big hit as well. A lot of this stuff is gorilla dust, when you start reading about what the standards actually are and how helmets get tested it's not all as scientific as it's cracked up to be. There are some differences, like the fact that rock climbing helmets don't really protect against side hits very well. However, look at motorcycle helmets, a pretty wide range of designs passes those standards, and I'd like to think they're some of the more rigorous ones.
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I'm not totally sure what he's wearing in the pics, though I'd agree it looks alot like the Sweet one.
There is, or at least used to be, a helmet made by Capix that looked similar. It was a multi-impact skate type helmet. They were decently priced, didn't look too goofy, and provided as much protection as any other multi-impact skate helmet.
Ninja Edit: Found it. They still make it:
link: https://www.tactics.com/capix
It's $30-$35
That may be what i end up getting, i wear a baseball cap all the time anyways...
Edit #2: IIRC you can swap the internal pads to be able to wear it backwards comfortably.......... if that's your thing....
AND, they even make a headphone system for them. Here's the Capix site: https://www.capixco.com/
There is, or at least used to be, a helmet made by Capix that looked similar. It was a multi-impact skate type helmet. They were decently priced, didn't look too goofy, and provided as much protection as any other multi-impact skate helmet.
Ninja Edit: Found it. They still make it:
link: https://www.tactics.com/capix
It's $30-$35
That may be what i end up getting, i wear a baseball cap all the time anyways...
Edit #2: IIRC you can swap the internal pads to be able to wear it backwards comfortably.......... if that's your thing....
AND, they even make a headphone system for them. Here's the Capix site: https://www.capixco.com/
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Just FYI, I think all helmets look silly, but I tend to like the ones that look like helmets, not some giant baseball cap. If you like it, awesome-- I wasn't trying to get personal.
As for the safety, it'd be a real concern to me. Even if the visor snapped off, it'd probably shatter, and tiny shards of high-impact plastic near the eyes seems like a bad thing. If it didn't snap, it'd probably jack a rider's head back, or [if the fall was oblique] would force the head to turn sharply, which could really damage the spine/neck. All in all, seems like a bad idea. Somebody correct me if they know better...
As for the safety, it'd be a real concern to me. Even if the visor snapped off, it'd probably shatter, and tiny shards of high-impact plastic near the eyes seems like a bad thing. If it didn't snap, it'd probably jack a rider's head back, or [if the fall was oblique] would force the head to turn sharply, which could really damage the spine/neck. All in all, seems like a bad idea. Somebody correct me if they know better...
Your concerns are valid and make sense. I have a reply to the thread in general coming up that explains where I am going and will hopefully lead others looking for a similar design.
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I think you might have hit the nail on the head.
The problem now is, "is it worth $160 to get a helmet that looks cool and isn't actually designed for cycling?" Well, I think maybe no, at least for me. It seems like the other helmets suggested in this thread would be similar in style and much more suited to the purpose.
The Specialized Skillet
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=33254
Although it lacks the brim that was part of the original draw of the OP helmet it still has a style that sets it apart from other traditional helmets for more aggressive riding.
$60 for 2008, but the 2007s are on sale $28 - $50
The Bern Baker
https://www.bernunlimited.com/2007/baker.html
This model sports a small brim that looks as if it won't break in a hard face first landing. It is also a neat helmet since it has inserts and add-ons that allow for more comfort depending on the weather. Although it seems to be more developed towards winter sports, all of Bern's helmets seem to be made to cross all genres of sporting helmets.
MSRP $49.99 ($89.99 with cold weather inserts)
The Sweet Strutter
https://www.sweet.no/helmets_strutter.htm
Specifically designed for whitewater sports, but it does appear to be the helmet in my OP. It sports a classic baseball cap styling. I can't say whether it will take the same beating as a standard cycling helmet. As mentioned above, the long brim does raise some concern for face first hits.
Various online stores $150 - $200
The Capix Skatecap Skate Helmet
https://www.tactics.com/capix/skatecap-skate-helmet
Again, another helmet not specifically made for cycling, but instead for skating. Classic baseball cap styling. I imagine it will take a decent hit, but it does raise the same concerns as the Sweet Strutter helmet in regards to face first hits and how the brim would hold.
$29.95 (unless you want a fancy strap or one with a pro-skaters name on it)
Read up some more on these. They all seem like great alternatives to traditional helmets.
And now unfortunately, I don't know which one I prefer...
The problem now is, "is it worth $160 to get a helmet that looks cool and isn't actually designed for cycling?" Well, I think maybe no, at least for me. It seems like the other helmets suggested in this thread would be similar in style and much more suited to the purpose.
The Specialized Skillet
https://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=33254
Although it lacks the brim that was part of the original draw of the OP helmet it still has a style that sets it apart from other traditional helmets for more aggressive riding.
$60 for 2008, but the 2007s are on sale $28 - $50
The Bern Baker
https://www.bernunlimited.com/2007/baker.html
This model sports a small brim that looks as if it won't break in a hard face first landing. It is also a neat helmet since it has inserts and add-ons that allow for more comfort depending on the weather. Although it seems to be more developed towards winter sports, all of Bern's helmets seem to be made to cross all genres of sporting helmets.
MSRP $49.99 ($89.99 with cold weather inserts)
The Sweet Strutter
https://www.sweet.no/helmets_strutter.htm
Specifically designed for whitewater sports, but it does appear to be the helmet in my OP. It sports a classic baseball cap styling. I can't say whether it will take the same beating as a standard cycling helmet. As mentioned above, the long brim does raise some concern for face first hits.
Various online stores $150 - $200
The Capix Skatecap Skate Helmet
https://www.tactics.com/capix/skatecap-skate-helmet
Again, another helmet not specifically made for cycling, but instead for skating. Classic baseball cap styling. I imagine it will take a decent hit, but it does raise the same concerns as the Sweet Strutter helmet in regards to face first hits and how the brim would hold.
$29.95 (unless you want a fancy strap or one with a pro-skaters name on it)
Read up some more on these. They all seem like great alternatives to traditional helmets.
And now unfortunately, I don't know which one I prefer...
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It is probably a sweet. Possibly a predator.
It is not going to shatter and send shards of fiberglass and carbon into your eyes.
Especially from a fall on a bicycle from a height of 6 feet when it is designed to protect the head from landing on rocks. Unlike a typical bike helmet it is made for hard blows and does not absorb smaller blows like a foam bike helmet would although both helmets are designed to take one big hit and be replaced most kayakers will use them after several smaller blows as long as there is no visible damage although we all know it could still be compromised even if the damage not visible.
Having landed on my head a couple of times while wearing whitewater helmets I can tell you they work, they do not shatter like a bike helmet, but I wouldn't wear one while biking, too expensive and too hot. And you couldn't pay me enough money to wear a bike helmet while kayaking.
It is not going to shatter and send shards of fiberglass and carbon into your eyes.
Especially from a fall on a bicycle from a height of 6 feet when it is designed to protect the head from landing on rocks. Unlike a typical bike helmet it is made for hard blows and does not absorb smaller blows like a foam bike helmet would although both helmets are designed to take one big hit and be replaced most kayakers will use them after several smaller blows as long as there is no visible damage although we all know it could still be compromised even if the damage not visible.
Having landed on my head a couple of times while wearing whitewater helmets I can tell you they work, they do not shatter like a bike helmet, but I wouldn't wear one while biking, too expensive and too hot. And you couldn't pay me enough money to wear a bike helmet while kayaking.
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Capix helmets are dope. Good luck finding one in L/XL size, though. Actually, there was a small spurt of them that came up on ebay recently. Don't order from the company though, they're super slow... I waited three months and still didn't get the helmet. Cancelled my order with them, they didn't realize I cancelled it until two months later. The brim is great for when it's raining out, the padding is super comfortable too. I'd spend the couple extra bucks ($5?) on a pro model Chet Thomas or Gailea, because the padding is much better and straps are also designed better... not just a name stamp in this case.