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    NEW HKK Chain VERTEX ORO NJS Keirin Track Gold 1/8"

    are these chains worth $30. + $10. for shipping?

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    If you're riding Keirin in Japan.......
    im in ur librariez.. holden ur caulfieldz!!1

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    Only you know if it's truly worth it to you. Value is very subjective.

    Personally, I wouldn't buy it.
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    i mean could this be the very same chain Ben's sells for $69.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by na975 View Post
    are these chains worth $30. + $10. for shipping?
    Do you know the difference between a $10, $20, and $50 chain?

    If so, then go to page 22. If not, then go to page 147.











    Page 22: "Yes the chain is worth it because you understand and appreciate the subtle differences and those minute differences justify spending 4 times the standard cost."







    Page 147: "No because chances are you might not feel the difference anyway."

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    I had one at one point.
    Its a beefy built chain and clearly stronger, better than the KMC crap.
    Id say, yes, worth the money.

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    What about noise, what are the quietest chains?

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    KMC 710SL (also known as KOOL SL). Very quiet and tolerant of chainline, light for a 1/8 chain, more readily available.
    Quote Originally Posted by DasProfezzional
    It happens to everybody around his age, and it's completely normal. We all have our first chainline sometime.
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    i saw this on ebay but its not packaged and the pic is not all that clear . weird : /

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    I have a KMC 710SL and an HKK Vertex on different bikes and they are both super quiet. Both have EAI cogs and Sugino rings and are properly tensioned and lubed. I haven't noticed a difference between the two set-ups and the chains are the only thing not the same.

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    if you chain is lubed nicely and your drivetrain is straight (or straight enough) and in good condition it should be quiet regardless of chain brand.

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    ...though some cogs are louder than others.

    some cogs mothers are....nevermind.

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    my wipperman 1g8 is mad loud....
    AM I DOING IT RITE

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    ^^ ...are bigger than other cogs mothers?

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    Considering that a 10-speed DA chain is $60 and a Wipperman is $100, what's the big deal with a $30 chain for fixed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIN View Post
    Considering that a 10-speed DA chain is $60 and a Wipperman is $100, what's the big deal with a $30 chain for fixed?
    A)Because returns for single speed chains diminish after $20.

    B) You do know that a 10-speed chain does other stuff than a single speed chain, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shogun17 View Post
    KMC 710SL (also known as KOOL SL). Very quiet and tolerant of chainline, light for a 1/8 chain, more readily available.
    I just realized that since switching to a Kool chain over a month ago that I haven't heard my drive at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megatron View Post
    my wipperman 1g8 is mad loud....
    Seriously, every Wipperman chain I've used has been ear-splitting. Great chains though!

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    I just switched from a KMC 510HX to a regular 710 and its WAY louder.
    grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. (onomateopoeia )

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyledriver View Post
    I just switched from a KMC 510HX to a regular 710 and its WAY louder.
    grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. (onomateopoeia )
    1/8 or 3/32?

    The 1/8" K710 is the my chain of choice for about 2 years now.

    (Yes, there is another chain on my bike in my sig photos, but it's been replaced with a K710.)

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    1/8", on a FSA track ring and Surly cog. I had been running 510HXs on all my bikes for the past couple of years too. I don't really mind the noise, but I can't help but feel like its probably adding a bit of drag.

    Perhaps it will quiet down after a couple more hundred kilometers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    A)Because returns for single speed chains diminish after $20.

    B) You do know that a 10-speed chain does other stuff than a single speed chain, right?
    A) That's a completely arbitrary statement - marginal returns on anything above Formula hubs can be described in the same way but people continue to buy $250 Phils. What is the price of buying "exclusivity?"

    B) It's not a far-fetched analogy to compare 10-speed chains to SS chains. The point is, there is a precedent for $100 chains (which are in fact very popular) so why is a $30 SS so ridiculous? $20 vs $30 is highly immaterial - in fact, I've seen markups bigger than that price differential between online and LBS.

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    Who cares if you're loud? Tells people you're coming through POW POW POW

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucks View Post
    Who cares if you're loud? Tells people you're coming through POW POW POW
    Most of us ride fixed to rob people.

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