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Old 09-11-07, 04:53 PM   #1
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parts for suzue sl junior, econo, whatever hub

Suzue is out of business, and I can't find an axle and cone set for the sl-sp. My cheapo hub needs some new cones. I'm thinking that any old cone for the right size ball bearings would work. However, the cones have covers built in. So does anyone know if there are cones that would work for this?
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just get some formulas,
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see above.
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wow. the poster is asking about cones, which might cost a couple bucks, and the recommendation is to buy a new hubset, and pay for a wheelbuild.

yes, formulas are superior hubs, but has anybody considered answering the question?

i've PMed the poster with helpful information.
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3/8"X26 rear
5/16"X26 front

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...m_id=US-HCF516


http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...em_id=US-HCR38
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wow. the poster is asking about cones, which might cost a couple bucks, and the recommendation is to buy a new hubset, and pay for a wheelbuild.

yes, formulas are superior hubs, but has anybody considered answering the question?

i've PMed the poster with helpful information.
pay $5 now and a lot more down the road; or $60 now, learn to build wheels, and be set for a long time
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you have your logic, but it's still a question about small parts.
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agreed. who's to assume the guy doesn't already know how to build wheels and just wants THAT hub. jeez. queerpunk: can you post your pm, so we can have some future reference? Some people here LIKE to learn.
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everyone who has posted in this thread (besides me) is a loser.
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Hey - thanks for the help guys. Queerpunk has agreed to help me get a few used parts, which will save me some time.
I don't want to buy a new hub and spokes and build a wheel around my sun cr18 rim. It's going on a bike that the girlfriend uses to cruise to school and back and do a few errands. If I felt like rebuilding a wheel, it would probably be with a 3 speed hub. For now, the suzue should be fine and easy to fix.
IIRC, the cones in question have a dust cover built in. I was thinking that quando or some other off brand may have been the same. Then I could just use those parts.
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sil-sp hubs

are sure that they are Suzue eco's?

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it said something along the lines of, "hay, what's your address? i have a suzue junior that i won't use after i cut it out of this wheel in a week or so..."
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Soil sampler, that's about what they look like, although I have only the rear hub. Came on a $75 wheel from nyc bikes. I think that suzue made only one cheap hub and a couple of nice track hubs, right? By process of elimination, mine is the economy ones.
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the suzue eco is another name for the sp/junior/basic/whatever. but yeah, yes, you're right - they made the junior, the Promax SB (sealed bearings), the Promax (looseball), and the carbon-shelled one.

all are good pieces of work. 'cept for the junior, though it doesn't deserve the smacktalk it gets. the junior really isn't as prone to stripping as some say they are (i'd guess it's more of an issue of people who are riding the cheaper hubs being the people who are also going to use a crappy cog, which is to blame), and their bearings are not top quality... their problem is that they are considerably eclipsed at their price point by Formula hubs and other sealed hubs, like novatech.
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businesscycles has axle sets for suzue.
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Thanks. Businesscycles don't list the econo hub model, though - just the promax ones.
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Last year or so, I tried to find replacement cones for my Suzue Jr's from two different, good bike shops. After they made a few phone calls, both shops told me that replacements cones are not available because they are considered disposable hubs. Your best bet is to watch ebay or cl for a used pair to cannibalize.

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Soil sampler, that's about what they look like, although I have only the rear hub. Came on a $75 wheel from nyc bikes. I think that suzue made only one cheap hub and a couple of nice track hubs, right? By process of elimination, mine is the economy ones.
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IIRC, the cones in question have a dust cover built in.
The eco's in the pic's that I have seen, seem to have the dust covers pressed on to the hub?

You sure it's not a Sovos?

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In faint letters on the hub, mine says:
Suzue
Japan
5 J
It also matches your first picture, except that my dust cover on the fixed side is not pressed in flush. Now, it is coming together. I remember seeing two different size balls in there. The fixed side had larger balls than the freewheel side. It should be a pretty symmetric hub and I would think it should have the same size balls, no? If so, maybe they put the wrong balls in there. Otherwise, the cover just wasn't pressed in well.



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2 sizes

Freewheel side uses 9 x 1/4" balls;fixed side uses 10 x 3/16" balls.

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed...tml#suzuebasic
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