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SS gear combos!!!!!!**********
ok, new to this area of bike forums(i reign from the mtb forum) i'm am purchasing a 2008 Giant STP frame which will be a SS, and it will feature awesome specs like rockshox argyles, and an atomlab g.i. pimp lite wheelset. Anyways i was wondering what gear combo would be best, i would like to get 32t hussefelt crank but i am still thinking about what combonation to choose.
I would prefer not bigger than 32t b/c it's an easy way to save weight and can be easily changed with a cog. I understand that more teeth on the crank will increase the gearing and vice versa.
I also understand that less teeth on the cog(cassette) will increase the gearing and vice versa.
so would 28-14 be good? 32-16? plz recommend!
p.s. the smaller the combo the better(less weight)!
I would prefer not bigger than 32t b/c it's an easy way to save weight and can be easily changed with a cog. I understand that more teeth on the crank will increase the gearing and vice versa.
I also understand that less teeth on the cog(cassette) will increase the gearing and vice versa.
so would 28-14 be good? 32-16? plz recommend!
p.s. the smaller the combo the better(less weight)!
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The standard recommendation is to try different gear combinations on a geared bike. Find a ratio that you feel comfortable riding without shifting, then use that (or an equivalent) ratio.
No one can just tell you what gear is best for you or the kind of riding you're doing.
No one can just tell you what gear is best for you or the kind of riding you're doing.
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ok, new to this area of bike forums(i reign from the mtb forum) i'm am purchasing a 2008 Giant STP frame which will be a SS, and it will feature awesome specs like rockshox argyles, and an atomlab g.i. pimp lite wheelset. Anyways i was wondering what gear combo would be best, i would like to get 32t hussefelt crank but i am still thinking about what combonation to choose.
I would prefer not bigger than 32t b/c it's an easy way to save weight and can be easily changed with a cog. I understand that more teeth on the crank will increase the gearing and vice versa.
I also understand that less teeth on the cog(cassette) will increase the gearing and vice versa.
so would 28-14 be good? 32-16? plz recommend!
p.s. the smaller the combo the better(less weight)!
I would prefer not bigger than 32t b/c it's an easy way to save weight and can be easily changed with a cog. I understand that more teeth on the crank will increase the gearing and vice versa.
I also understand that less teeth on the cog(cassette) will increase the gearing and vice versa.
so would 28-14 be good? 32-16? plz recommend!
p.s. the smaller the combo the better(less weight)!
I'm assuming you're talking about a MTB...
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"I recommend that you pick a big cog out back (18 teeth or larger) and experiment to find a gear ratio you like by varying your chainring sizes up front. The weight penalty here is practically non-existent; there is no benefit whatsoever to using a "Micro-drive" drivetrain on your one-speed off-road bike. Don’t do it!"
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The standard recommendation is to try different gear combinations on a geared bike. Find a ratio that you feel comfortable riding without shifting, then use that (or an equivalent) ratio.
No one can just tell you what gear is best for you or the kind of riding you're doing.
No one can just tell you what gear is best for you or the kind of riding you're doing.
(teeth on chainring / teeth on cog) x size of wheel in inches.
that's the *rear* wheel... just in case you're planning on building some jackass track monstrosity
once you have that number, you can then figure out a combination of chainring and cog that suits you. ie, that the 44 x 22 you like on you're geared bike will be the same gear as the 32 x 16 on your fixed (given the same wheel size)
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ok, new to this area of bike forums(i reign from the mtb forum) i'm am purchasing a 2008 Giant STP frame which will be a SS, and it will feature awesome specs like rockshox argyles, and an atomlab g.i. pimp lite wheelset. Anyways i was wondering what gear combo would be best, i would like to get 32t hussefelt crank but i am still thinking about what combonation to choose.
I would prefer not bigger than 32t b/c it's an easy way to save weight and can be easily changed with a cog. I understand that more teeth on the crank will increase the gearing and vice versa.
I also understand that less teeth on the cog(cassette) will increase the gearing and vice versa.
so would 28-14 be good? 32-16? plz recommend!
p.s. the smaller the combo the better(less weight)!
I would prefer not bigger than 32t b/c it's an easy way to save weight and can be easily changed with a cog. I understand that more teeth on the crank will increase the gearing and vice versa.
I also understand that less teeth on the cog(cassette) will increase the gearing and vice versa.
so would 28-14 be good? 32-16? plz recommend!
p.s. the smaller the combo the better(less weight)!
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Definitely depends on where you are riding the bike. If you are hitting the parks and DJ's, you'll want a pretty tall ratio, something like 36-16 or so. If you are riding smooth trails, 32-16 or 32-18 might work better. I ride some pretty technical trails, so I push a 32-20. As soon as I hit anything level or smooth I tend to spin out pretty quick.
As far as experimentation goes, I'd try finding a ratio you like on a geared bike, like folks said. If you want to experiment on your bike, get some cheap Shimano DX cogs (usually about $5 each) and mess with them with a single front chainring until you find what you like. Then get a good cog and stick with it.
As far as experimentation goes, I'd try finding a ratio you like on a geared bike, like folks said. If you want to experiment on your bike, get some cheap Shimano DX cogs (usually about $5 each) and mess with them with a single front chainring until you find what you like. Then get a good cog and stick with it.
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Definitely depends on where you are riding the bike. If you are hitting the parks and DJ's, you'll want a pretty tall ratio, something like 36-16 or so. If you are riding smooth trails, 32-16 or 32-18 might work better. I ride some pretty technical trails, so I push a 32-20. As soon as I hit anything level or smooth I tend to spin out pretty quick.
As far as experimentation goes, I'd try finding a ratio you like on a geared bike, like folks said. If you want to experiment on your bike, get some cheap Shimano DX cogs (usually about $5 each) and mess with them with a single front chainring until you find what you like. Then get a good cog and stick with it.
As far as experimentation goes, I'd try finding a ratio you like on a geared bike, like folks said. If you want to experiment on your bike, get some cheap Shimano DX cogs (usually about $5 each) and mess with them with a single front chainring until you find what you like. Then get a good cog and stick with it.
But try a couple things and see what feels good. Not too spinny, not too knee breaking...
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Depends if this bike is for off-road or not. As was previously mentioned a 2:1 ratio is very common on single-speed off-road bikes. If you live/ride in a particularly hilly area you may want to go 2 teeth bigger on the cog. 32-16 for flatter riding...32-18 for hillier areas. Weight difference between 28-14 and 32-16 will be negligible. More teeth is better...longer lasting and better chain wrap.
also, the DX cogs were the ones i was looking at...i will make sure to try them out.
thx, u guys have been very helpful!
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ohh yeah, i have decided on something else: say goodbye to the argyles(almost positive) I am gettin' the 07 Manitou Gold Label 2's, their lighter, cost less money at my lbs (sale soon), and that vibrant green looks sick(that was not the deciding point.....seriously) and i have heard good things about 'em.
Any personal experiences with the gold labels?
cheers, M.A.M.
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As far as dropping to a 28-14, that can work, but it depends on your cranks. If you are running spiderless BMX cranks, you might as well go down to 24-12. If you have cranks with a 4-bolt spider, 32 teeth is as small as you can go for the chainring. If you have a 5-bolt spider, 34t is as small as you can go.
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It's all about where you ride. If it's all hills, a 2:1 ratio (32/16) may be too tall. If you're in a flat area, the 2:1 ratio won't be tall enough. If you have a lot of climbing, I'd start with a 32/18, and them swap out cogs if needed.
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For single speed in this instance, it's better to go with the 2:1 ratio using the larger 32x16 combination. The weight difference is very minimal, but what you gain with 32x16 is more chain engagement and thus less a chance that you'll throw your chain, and less drivetrain wear.
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I'd consider going a little taller if you're riding smooth stuff without mile-long inclines.
As far as dropping to a 28-14, that can work, but it depends on your cranks. If you are running spiderless BMX cranks, you might as well go down to 24-12. If you have cranks with a 4-bolt spider, 32 teeth is as small as you can go for the chainring. If you have a 5-bolt spider, 34t is as small as you can go.
As far as dropping to a 28-14, that can work, but it depends on your cranks. If you are running spiderless BMX cranks, you might as well go down to 24-12. If you have cranks with a 4-bolt spider, 32 teeth is as small as you can go for the chainring. If you have a 5-bolt spider, 34t is as small as you can go.
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For single speed in this instance, it's better to go with the 2:1 ratio using the larger 32x16 combination. The weight difference is very minimal, but what you gain with 32x16 is more chain engagement and thus less a chance that you'll throw your chain, and less drivetrain wear.
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As for the 28-14 chainwrap problem....couldn't i just remove links or get a smaller chain?
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alright!! i have decided on either of these combos: 32t crank + a 18t cog or a 28t crank + a 16t cog.
It's gonna be awesome going SS!!
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It's gonna be awesome going SS!!
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ok, just updating.....going with the 32t hussefelt crankset for $140, and probably the cheap shimano dx cogs to start......yepp, that's how it's going to be.
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sorry for posting 6 times in a row, but i was wondering if any of u guys/gals have some other suggestions for a 32t crank.
right now of course i'm leaning towards the truvativ hussefelt.
thx!
right now of course i'm leaning towards the truvativ hussefelt.
thx!
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no crank suggestions? come on..........