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Old 10-08-07, 09:16 PM   #1
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Sugino 75s or FSA carbon pro

I'm going to buy a new crank for my bike. I have narrowed it down to two choices: Sugino 75s or FSA carbon pros. at this point I am leaning towards the FSAs because they are cheaper but I am skeptical about the quality. although I feel that I can install them correctly I have heard of the octalink stripping out. as far as the suginos go, Is thier quality really worth the price? I can get the whole fsa set (cranks, chainring, and BB) for $185 plus shiping while the 75s locally will run me 170 for just the crank and then I would have to throw down for a chainring (another 75+) and a BB. I do know that I want to do it right and am willing to pay for highquality parts. Further information as to my setup is I ride an 04 pista with all other parts swapped out minus cranks and headset hard through portland on a daily basis.
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Old 10-08-07, 09:25 PM   #2
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Holy God. Who's charging you 75 bucks for a chainring? They should be slaughtered.

I'd get the FSA's, but every single person in here is going to tell you to get the 75's. The FSA's are the track ones and not the road, right?
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Old 10-08-07, 09:31 PM   #3
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yes Im talking about the FSA carbon monocoque track cranks.

as far as chainrings go, for a sugino zen or 75 your looking at 75+ unless somebody can find a black 48 x 1/8 x 144 chainring for less

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Old 10-08-07, 09:57 PM   #4
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How hard are your riding your bike and how long do you want these cranks to last?

>5years get the sugino's
<5years get the carbon's

Edit: winter? track? or city?

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Simply put, the sugino's are not worth their price BUT will most likely out perform any other crank you buy.
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I would hope to drop the money once and have them last a long time with hopes of transfering these cranks over to a nicer frame someday.

edit- I ride my bike through the city everyday rain or shine, summer or winter
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i think aebike.com still has the best price on sugino 75's. they are the standard for cranks.
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Wait, if the FSA'a are outboard bearing (and i think they are), then by all means go for them. This is a better technology, and at a better price.

75's are nice, but they aren't the end all and be all. square taper bb's are inherently less stiff than basically any newer design and are the hardest to service.
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That is the cheapest i've seen and is another in favor of the 75s. another quick question, could I run the 75 on my stock pista BB until I save the money for it or would it not fit?
I really appreciate the help so far
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Honestly, I can't feel much difference between my Sugino 75s and my FSA Team Issues on my road bike. They probably have about the same stiffness. The only reason I went with the 75s was that I had all the BB tools already and didn't want to buy them again.

BTW, the FSAs are ISIS, not Octalink. Not that it matters, because they're not going to strip any faster than a square taper.
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You would need a new bottom bracket with the 75's.
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Holy God. Who's charging you 75 bucks for a chainring? They should be slaughtered.

I'd get the FSA's, but every single person in here is going to tell you to get the 75's. The FSA's are the track ones and not the road, right?
I have had the fsa's and now swear by 75s the fsa has this horrible slip the spider and the crank arm aren't machined properly they don't match and slip same issue as he vigorellis I have had both I have 75s now because of my disappointment in fsa
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Holy God. Who's charging you 75 bucks for a chainring? They should be slaughtered.
you've never bought chainrings before.
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I have had the fsa's and now swear by 75s the fsa has this horrible slip the spider and the crank arm aren't machined properly they don't match and slip same issue as he vigorellis I have had both I have 75s now because of my disappointment in fsa
The new FSA's have fixed that problem I believe.

Honestly, you're probably not going to notice the difference. I was in the same position not long ago, and I went FSA because: a) no hassle choosing a sealed bottom bracket - the FSA track bb fits perfectly for a clean chain line and is half the price of phil, b) I like the carbon look, and c) I could get it a lot cheaper.

By the times these cranks break there will probably be a jump in bb tech, and I'm nowhere near sensitive to notice any difference in stiffness. Hell, I ride with street shoes.
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Holy God. Who's charging you 75 bucks for a chainring? They should be slaughtered.
$50-$80 is pretty average going-price for Sugino 75 chainrings. While you could buy cheaper 144 rings, this price is pretty consistent between all the high-end makers.

To the OP, what kind of riding are you doing? If you're actually taking these to the track regularly, go with the carbon cranks. If you're goings to be zipping around town on these, I'd say get the 75s. I personally don't like the idea of carbon cranks coming close to the curb or being one careless driver away from a shattered crank arm.
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you've never bought chainrings before.
I've bought my share of chainrings. I just haven't ever been the idiot that buys one for 75 bucks.
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Dura Ace cranks
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Sugino. I've never had a good experience with ISIS cranks of any type. Either the BB dies prematurely, or else the crank/bb interface magically disintigrates.
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The new FSA's have fixed that problem I believe.

Honestly, you're probably not going to notice the difference. I was in the same position not long ago, and I went FSA because: a) no hassle choosing a sealed bottom bracket - the FSA track bb fits perfectly for a clean chain line and is half the price of phil, b) I like the carbon look, and c) I could get it a lot cheaper.

By the times these cranks break there will probably be a jump in bb tech, and I'm nowhere near sensitive to notice any difference in stiffness. Hell, I ride with street shoes.
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