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    Hit and run in CA

    Okay I'm posting this up for another guy in another forum I frequent. Tell me what you think of it. What should he do?

    Quote Originally Posted by couch View Post
    On Wednesday October 3, 2007 I was on a ride in Long Beach CA. The ride meets at 9:00pm and start around 9:30pm. There are usually around 80+ people. No this is not Critical Mass so keep your comments to yourselves, we have already gone over this. Anyways, the ride starts and about seven miles in a car pulls into the pack. The lady starts honking and accelerating as if she is going to ram us out of the way. We were all riding two wide and not slowing traffic by any means. She pulls behind a friend of mine and begins to honk over and over at him. We are coming up to a red light so we stopped. By this time the pack had split up, most of which went thru the green. The lady keeps honking and my friend turns around to tell her to back off and suddenly, while making eye contact with each other, she accelerates into the back of him knocking him off his bike, out of the clips and onto her hood. This is all taking place at a red light, with about twenty-five people around, not including people in their cars. He picked up his bike and she continued to pull foward so he raised up his bike, never touching the car with it though. He was teling someone to call the cops as she tried to flee the scene. We blocked her in, took her plate number and called the cops. Some people on the ride ended up spitting on her car and kicking it, then bailed. We stuck around and waited for the cops. Before the cops arrived a random hero pulls up and blocks traffic. All he did was lay on his horn and start yelling. He finally gets out and starts threatening us saying he saw everything. There was no possible way he could have seen any of it go down from where he came from. He starts telling us he is going to **** us up and all that bs. We just laughed at him and pissed him off even more. One guy ended up getting in his face and made him back off. So the cops finally show up and one gets out immediately telling us to get our bikes and get on the ground. No big deal, they don't know what's going on. So one guy is getting his bike as instructed and another cop yells at him, get on the ****ing ground. And grabs him by the neck and throws him to the ground wwf chokeslam style. I asked that cop for his name and badge number, he just shaded off. They begin to ask questions and take our ID's after that. We told them exactly what happened and naturally, they didn't believe us. They told us we need to get jobs and be responsable. I told him I work at least seventy hours a week. He asked what I do and when I told him what I do he was shocked, then pissed when he realized what I do is a ot more important than patrolling the streets of long beach and ticketing people on bicycles. At this point they started asking us about our bikes. By this time the focus was not on the lady in the car intentionally ramming my friend, it was on us and how miscreant we are. Long story still long but shorter than it can be..... we all got tickets for no bike registration/license, which is not required in the city I live, and a ticket for no bike lights, which I clearly had. He hands me the ticket to sign and I begin to read it before I sign it. It pissed him off that I wasn't just giving into his bs. Another cop came over and suggested they take my bike, so they did. They took my bike, one others bike and arrested my friend that got hit. He was charged with vandalizm because of the tire mark on her bumper and the dent on her hood from where he fell onto it when she hit him. He was not read his rights and was handcuffed then hauled in. All while we are sitting on the curb the ***** that hit my friend is talking **** on all of us in front of the cop with her friend that showed up after everything happened. So we got hit, we called the cops, we stoped a hit and run and we are the ones that get arrested, ticked and have our bikes impounded for three months. The **** that hit him ended up leaving without a ticket, without a stern talking to, without ****. There is no record of them taking our bikes either. They made it sound like they weren't going to bring to the bikes to the bicycle warehouse like they are supposed to by what they were saying.

    Btw, none of us talked back, smart mouthed or even got defensive. Long Beach cops are notorously ****ty.

    Anyone with any legal advice or experience with dirty cops, dish the dirt!

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    MAN **** THAT.

    I've been on that ride. Can't believe that ****. I've also had a ton of run-ins with ******* cops pulling me over for being on a bike. 2 months ago I went on a crit mass ride. We were on ocean riding two wide when a cop pulled up and got on the loud speaker telling us to ride single file. The lanes on ocean aren't wide enough for a bike and car anyway. I told him bikes have the same rights as cars to which he responded "No they don't and if you want to keep being a smartass I'll ticket you right now." I wrote my councilperson but this is ridiculous. There needs to be a letter writing campaign cause these streets are out of control.

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    Did he ever end up getting a badge number? That is key. If they didn't get it they'll probably just end up running in circles with people at the police station. That sucks so unbelievably mother****ing bad though. Insane incompetence...

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    Man, that is the worst.

    I can't even begin to imagine that situation.

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    This is insane, it's illegal for the officer to not give his badge number and name when requested. How much worse is this going to get?

    There has only been one time in a city where i have had positive interactions with a police officer, every other time in multiple cities they have threatened to arrest me or someone else (often times for calling them on violating the rights of myself or others) or rewarding drivers with impunity for threatening my life or the lives of others and for physically assaulting cyclists. I hate the cops, they don't protect me.

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    Andrew, if you have a specific incident in DC with police you would like to let us know about, go to www.dcfixed.com. I'd like to hear about it.
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    get drunk, ride a scooter, don't steal your girlfriends bike back, get laid anyway, post about it on the internets.

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    Where'd these cops get their training? Nazi Germany? That's ****ed up.
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    This is literally unbelievable. I really hope it's not true.

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    It is a bit of hearsay--- you know, friend of a friend stuff. Not saying that it didn't happen, but it makes me wonder if a few significant details were left out. Having been in similar circumstances with insane motorists, I have given up involving police. If they don't witness the event, and you don't need an ambulance, cops generally will do nothing to help the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blickblocks View Post
    This is literally unbelievable. I really hope it's not true.
    couldnt agree more

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    Press charges against the lady in the car, contact the press, file complaints against the officers, contact more press, sue the lady in the car.

    Lots of options. Some cops are jaggoffs, ignore them, deal with it yourself. It's California! Sue! Sue the cops while you're at it.

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    everytime these come up I am super sceptic
    I am dyslexic so bear with my posts.... [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    this is unforgivable!
    i like riding my bike.
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    If this is all true I would talk to a local attorney about pursuing
    an action against the cops, authorized under 42 USC Section 1983

    "Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia. "

    This isn't my area of law and this is not legal advice--I'm just saying I would ask someone who is qualified
    to see if you can gin up a cause of action to put the screws on the cops--I hope you put them on the street and take their effing house and truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousincident View Post
    Did he ever end up getting a badge number?
    Well, somebody had to, since one person was arrested and others were ticketed.
    You can find the name and badge number on the ticket.
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    get drunk, ride a scooter, don't steal your girlfriends bike back, get laid anyway, post about it on the internets.

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    man

    Dude if you have all the information like license plate number, witness, names of the polices officers, the stories of the witness. I say go to court like someone else said. Sue the lady that hit your friend, bringing in the police officers as witness and many of your bike companions. I suggest you take this to court if you have the money and man power. Because this sucks a lot and i would definitely take action as soon as possible. The polices officers from your story behaved unprofessional and idiotic so definitely take some action even if you don't get money out of this the justice being served is more than money can pay!

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    There were only 25 witnesses, which is why I am skeptical...

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    My advice:

    1) Use Paragraphs
    2) IF true, move out of Long Beach and never go back.
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    someone needs to get throttlejock drunk

    give him a scooter

    and let him work his magic
    not a 2ksuck'r

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    lol. totally... this whole mess will be solved in 6-8 months!
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    ive never had a good run in with the cops one time i had a cop follow me and my friend around for an hour because we where "suspicious" looking. there are probably only a handful of good cops in the US at least in my town where tons of people ride bikes they dont really care.

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    for ****s sake.

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