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    Um.. so LBS didn't give me MKS toe clips I ordered

    I went to the LBS today to pick up MKS large toe clips I ordered last Thurs.

    Problem is, today when I picked them up, they did not look like MKS toe clips (I've had some in the past, and they look different--the right angle at the toe, the bolt design of where the strap goes through, etc.). These new ones don't have any etching on them that say MKS and the size on them as they had before. I normally wouldn't care and just use these, except these appear pretty damn small (probably smaller than i can use) and when I last remembered it, MKS toe clips were pretty stiff compared to cheapo ones I had before (and these look like cheapo ones).

    Today in the store I asked him if these were really MKS. He flipped through his book for a minute and then said the numbers matched up. Although, last week he did say that when he was ordering, he was going to order some pedals for another customer that came with MKS toe clips. I took his word for it, but I assume he ordered MKS pedals that came with some crappy clips.

    I think I will definitely ask him for a refund since these are not what I wanted, although then I wouldn't be able to ride for a while while I acquired some new ones online. I also want to get to riding because this is a brand new bike and I haven't ridden in about a year and it pains me having to wait another 5 days.

    How would I bring them back and say "these are definitely not MKS" without being a dick? Because he seems like a nice guy, rides fixed (although probably exclusively clipless so he had no clue about clips), etc. and he is the best guy around town for going to for repairs/stuff. I probably normally would just keep them and pretend I didn't know, and just suck up the $12 I paid for him while I order my own, but I am trying not to be a pusharound anymore and stand up for things like this. It's not really my fault, right?

    Also, I want to ride around for several days since I'm so excited about my new fix, but then they wouldn't be "new" anymore, and I don't know if they are returnable.

    Just did some research, and yes these look exactly like the Nashbar toe clips which I had before. They are even 50mm in length.



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    Was this the Bicycle Shop on Meeting Street? I really don't like that place.

    Anyway, sorry, but I'm really not sure about your predicament. It would be best if you could bring in some actual MKS clips for comparison, and say that you think the dealer brought the shop the wrong ones.
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    No, its Easy Rider in Mt. Pleasant. Yeah I dont like that meeting street one either.
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    Well, there's nothing magical about MKS clips that wouldn't be found in another brand, but it still sucks that you didn't get what you asked for. How much did you pay?

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    $12
    the point is, i woudln't care if there wans't anything magical about MKS, but in my experience it does make a difference.. the MKS is stiffer, and larger (these are too small)
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    It seems kind of weird to type several pages worth of postings just for one simple purchase in the LBS. If you think you paid too much, go back. Then go out and ride, instead of posting your five daily threads here.

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    Doubtful they are MKS since they don't have MKS stamped on them in multiple places and they are Phillips screws instead of the hex type.

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    dizzy, good point.

    anyway, i just went out for a ride. damn those are flexy as hell. when i put my feet in them they bend outwards laterally, and they're definitely way too short.
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    If they are not what you want bring them back. However if they are not what you want you need to bring them back before you use them. I don't mind people returning stuff, because they decided they did not want it, but it needs to be new and resaleable.
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    no matter how "nice" he is...its his job to get the customer what they ordered. if he bought u some nashbar clips instead of mks ones...then he's at fault... imho.

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    Why don't you just show him the photo of the MKS clips you posted? Point out that the MKS pedals say "MKS". Ask if perhaps his supplier made a mistake.

    Where did he order them from? QBP doesn't carry the clips.

    You can pick them up from Ben's for $10 plus shipping (http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...9f2f315db46b33). And according to the review, they're "shiny".
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    you should print out this thread and bring it in too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    anyway, i just went out for a ride. damn those are flexy as hell. when i put my feet in them they bend outwards laterally, and they're definitely way too short.
    the straps are what are supposed to hold you're feet. the clips are just for keeping the straps opened up so you can get your foot in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piwonka View Post
    the straps are what are supposed to hold you're feet. the clips are just for keeping the straps opened up so you can get your foot in them.
    that's what i use to think too, but trust me i've tried these crappy clips and MKS clips before, and the difference was huge.

    it's a problem when you stick your feet into the clips and they won't even slide in there straight, because the clip has bent outwards and the straps aren't even held in the normal open position.

    plus, these clips are so short that they don't even hold the straps above where the straps are, it holds them more over the spindle..
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    Gotta say, the difference between whimpy/crappy/ultralight/plastic toe clips and the MKS steel clips is huge. They really are the sweetest toe clips I've ever used, and I've used many. True they add a little rotational weight, but it is worthwhile weight to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    that's what i use to think too, but trust me i've tried these crappy clips and MKS clips before, and the difference was huge.

    it's a problem when you stick your feet into the clips and they won't even slide in there straight, because the clip has bent outwards and the straps aren't even held in the normal open position.

    plus, these clips are so short that they don't even hold the straps above where the straps are, it holds them more over the spindle..
    yeah, wrong size is for sure a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piwonka View Post
    yeah, wrong size is for sure a problem.
    +1. Gotta get that taken care of.
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    He may have ordered the correct part and the distributer sent him the wrong one. It happens all the time and he may not know exactly what they are supposed to look like. I remember ordering one part three times, each time sending it back b/c it was the wrong part with the correct part number on it. Sometimes the warhouses just screw up.
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