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Old 11-03-07, 11:54 PM   #1
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Re-usable helmets

After a recent run in with an old guy driving a Cadillac I've been paranoid about traffic and have been considering getting a helmet for alleycats or in case I get a messengering or delivery job. My main issues with "traditional" bicycle helmets (the semi-aero ones with big slots for ventilation) are that they slip off the head easily, look ********, and generally only last for one bad wipe out. I've got an old, cheaper Protec but the padding sucks.

Can you guys suggest helmets that:
1. have at least a little ventilation
2. last more than one bad wipe
3. come with/have provisions for a headband retainer (for headlamps and goggles)
4. have provisions for using a chin cup or something instead of the normal under the chin straps, so that it doesn't just slip off the back of my head and choke me to death when i fall down
5. can be repainted
6. have a suspension system or nice pads instead of ****ty foam pads
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Old 11-04-07, 12:31 AM   #2
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2. last more than one bad wipe
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Old 11-04-07, 12:41 AM   #3
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you should wear one every time you ride, not just for alleycats or high-risk situations.

you should never wear any bicycle helment(at least not eva foam ones) after they've suffered a hit.
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Old 11-04-07, 01:19 AM   #4
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x2 on always wearing a helmet. x2 on not wearing an eva after even one crash. Try lots of brands, they all fit a little differently, you're bound to find one that fits properly. I'm personally partial to the new specialized helmets, just bought one. Check out Bell, Rudy Project, Giro, etc. too.

BUT...if you aren't going to actually wear it if it's a real bike helmet, try some skiing/snowboarding/ice climbing type helmets--hit up your local REI or ski/mountain shop. These helmets are designed to withstand a higher number of smaller hits, and all have headband systems. They won't be nearly as good as an eva foam helmet in a big crash, but they'll be a h*ll of a lot better than nothing.

Seriously, though, go to a shop and try on a bunch of brands, models and sizes--they all fit differently. Any competent shop employee should be able to fit one to your head that doesn't slip around.
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Old 11-04-07, 01:23 AM   #5
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Check my sig. Then go buy helmet.
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you should wear one every time you ride, not just for alleycats or high-risk situations.

you should never wear any bicycle helment(at least not eva foam ones) after they've suffered a hit.
Yesss ****s happens all the time. Wear a helemt... they even make u looks faster too.
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Old 11-04-07, 01:26 AM   #7
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protech BMX/Skating helmets aren't so bad
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ask the guys in the motorcycle leathers thread

they seem to have a similar strategy
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Old 11-04-07, 02:33 AM   #9
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sounds like you've just always ridden with helmets that weren't adjusted right, or were the wrong size. a properly fit helmet should never slide around, and chinstraps really aren't that bad if adjusted correctly. with that said, i'd go check out one of your LBSs that carries a decent amount of mountain biking stuff, and see if they have anything that fits what you're looking for. or maybe the helmet in this thread - I.D. this helmet, please... - is kind of like what you're looking for?
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Old 11-04-07, 06:54 AM   #11
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I have a snowboarding helmet by pro-tec thats rated for multiple hits. I use it on my bike.
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My main issues with "traditional" bicycle helmets (the semi-aero ones with big slots for ventilation) are that they slip off the head easily, look ********, and generally only last for one bad wipe out.
Bike helmets should not 'slip off the head easily'. You're doing something really wrong if so. Mid-range helmets have an adjustment band that tightens across the back section that holds the helmet in place. As far as looking '********' and only lasting for one hard hit, severe brain damage makes people look a lot more ********, and you can get a decent helmet for $50, which hopefully is not too much for your skull (if you want it to last, don't get in accidents).
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Old 11-04-07, 08:10 PM   #13
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Well, ****. This hasn't been particularly helpful.

I have plenty of experience wearing bicycle helmets. I also have experience with bicycling injuries. And yes, I would like to wear a bicycle helmet whenever I ride.

And now for my backup plan: go to the store and spend half an hour ****ing around and looking at bike helmets.
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for all intents and purposes it should be fine as long as there are no cracks or deformations(dents) in the foam... but do you really hit your head that often that you don't want to buy a new one?

sometimes i hit my head on things or drop the helmet on a floor, and i don't think it compromises the function of the helmet- but do you really want to trust your life to something that was designed for one hit that's taken three?

the newer specialized bmx/skate style helments look to have good ventilation while still being full shell and whatnot, but i would rather buy a new helmet after my occasional head-hit spill than worry about it everytime i get in a bad situation.

this is one of those questions that is useful to discuss but there's no real answer besides what it says on the packaging.

there are real reasons based on science and research that suggest you should chuck a helmet after it takes a hit. anything else we can tell you is going to be academic at best.
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I want reusable condoms
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I don't have the answers for you but in the off chance you haven't notice it, helmets.org gives a description and semi-specs on nearly every damn helmet made--it's at the bottom of their main article. Didn't notice it until I tried to print screen something and got a 70-something page preview. If you've got the patience to read it, maybe there'd be one with all those features.
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They have those ya know...you just turn them inside out and shake the f**k out of them.
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your back up plan should have been asking us. i am completely satisfied with my helmet (giro transfer) but it only satisfies your first criteria. it doesn't slip off my head either (no helmet should as long as you adjust it properly), but it doesn't have provisions for a chin strap. it also helps to have some sort of hat under your helmet, hair doesn't provide a whole lot of traction with the helmet. i'm sorry to say, but your best bet is to go to the store and try some on. or try the advocacy and safety forum.
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shake the f**k out of them.
nice pun

yeah, the foam squishes down in a good hit and wont have anymore ability to compress and absorb shock a second time around. Its essentially the same stuff in packing peanuts, worthless once crushed. Replacement is mandatory, but I've heard some manufacturers have programs that subsidize your replacement if you send them the crashed one.

If you are crashing and landing on your head enough to have to frequently replace your helmet, you will have bigger things to worry about then the cost of a new lid.
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doesn't bell replace any helmet for like $15 or something?
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Bell Faction with extra geekery for the win



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nice pun
haha. yes!
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sounds about as practical as reusable condoms. Unless they have been barely touched.
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I tried on one of the giro snowboarding helmets at REI. I personally didn't like it, but it might be worth a shot. I've been loving my bell ghisallo lately, though. With a beanie underneath it keeps my head so snug and warm I almost look forward to wearing it.

Almost.

Either way, it would be nice to see more people sportin' lids around milwaukee.
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