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Old 11-21-07, 11:24 AM   #1
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talk me out of buying a langster

I already have a single speed tricross so arguably I could just swap the wheels/tires and ride it on the road just fine. But for some reason I want a langster too.
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Old 11-21-07, 11:31 AM   #2
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they're ugly. and they have too much proprietary specialized crap.

Buy a rush hour or something.
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Old 11-21-07, 11:31 AM   #3
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I loved the one I owned but it wont get you any "scene points" with the cool kids so you shouldnt buy one.

Did that work?
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Old 11-21-07, 11:33 AM   #4
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Does the ss tricross not have a flip flop hub? I thought they did, for some reason.
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Old 11-21-07, 11:35 AM   #5
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get an IRO instead.
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Old 11-21-07, 11:45 AM   #6
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they have too much proprietary specialized crap.
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Old 11-21-07, 11:46 AM   #7
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people who ride them almost always spontaneously combust
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Old 11-21-07, 11:58 AM   #8
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they are aluminum so the ride will be a little harsher than steel. For fg/ss purposes I think steel is more comfortable, more fun, and better looking -- that and I think its more fun and customized to build my own bike than buy a complete one from a major manufacturer.
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Old 11-21-07, 12:00 PM   #9
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oh totally buy a langster.


do it! for real!!

no worries!!

just make sure you post a pic of you riding it when you get it so we can all see it.



dude, everybody rides a langster, and if they don't, they wish they did.

so if you buy it, you'll be ahead of the game, right?

so really, there's no reason you shouldn't buy a langster.


everybody's doing it! why shouldn't you?
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Old 11-21-07, 12:04 PM   #10
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Huge Specialized stickers scream "poser"... i guess if you can find a clean way to remove them, then it wouldn't be too bad.
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Old 11-21-07, 12:07 PM   #11
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I like the Langster. But i'd buy a Cannondale Capo instead.
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Old 11-21-07, 12:09 PM   #12
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For fg/ss purposes I think steel is more comfortable, more fun, and better looking -- that and I think its more fun and customized to build my own bike than buy a complete one from a major manufacturer.
How in the hell is one type of metal more fun than another? And how is a fg/ss situation any different from a road bike situation? If anything, I would think that AL would be better in a fg/ss situation because it's gonna have less flex/better power transfer when you're out of the saddle mashing up a hill.

Just admit that you don't like how AL frames look. I don't really have a problem with that. What's annoying is the people who pass down bull**** information because it's what everyone else is saying.
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Old 11-21-07, 12:11 PM   #13
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And to the OP, sell me your Tricross for $200 and put that money towards a new Langster. I know you want to.
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Agreed. AL stiffness will beat you up only on long rides over no-so-smooth roads.
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How in the hell is one type of metal more fun than another? And how is a fg/ss situation any different from a road bike situation? If anything, I would think that AL would be better in a fg/ss situation because it's gonna have less flex/better power transfer when you're out of the saddle mashing up a hill.

Just admit that you don't like how AL frames look. I don't really have a problem with that. What's annoying is the people who pass down bull**** information because it's what everyone else is saying.
He didn't say where he was, but I, in Brooklyn, have to go over a lot of bad roads -- imo people ride ss/fg bikes in urban environments that typically have poor and flat roads and generally the rides aren't as long as a geared bike. Of course, if you're in a hilly area like SF, Al might be better but everywhere else, dampening and responsiveness would seem to be more desired than stiffness-- which would make steel a better choice.

I have no problems with how AL looks, the pista concept and trek t1 are pretty nice looking bikes, but I would rather be riding steel on the street.
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I loved the one I owned but it wont get you any "scene points" with the cool kids so you shouldnt buy one.

Did that work?
I'm too old to be concerned with "scene points". I'm just looking for a single speed to do long road rides.
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Old 11-21-07, 12:41 PM   #17
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Does the ss tricross not have a flip flop hub? I thought they did, for some reason.
Yes, it does.
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Old 11-21-07, 12:50 PM   #18
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He didn't say where he was, but I, in Brooklyn, have to go over a lot of bad roads -- imo people ride ss/fg bikes in urban environments that typically have poor and flat roads and generally the rides aren't as long as a geared bike. Of course, if you're in a hilly area like SF, Al might be better but everywhere else, dampening and responsiveness would seem to be more desired than stiffness-- which would make steel a better choice.
I'm not going to go too deep into this, because there's way too much that can be said on the subject and I have things to do today. Check out what Sheldon Brown has to say on the subject. There's tons more info out there too if you look for it. I will say that I've ridden an AL Cannondale road bike on really ****ty roads, and I've been fine. I've bumped up to 28's and it isn't jarring at all. As far as responsiveness, that really has nothing to do with the metal at all. That's more geometry than anything.

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I have no problems with how AL looks, the pista concept and trek t1 are pretty nice looking bikes, but I would rather be riding steel on the street.
More power to you. I like to keep my options open though.
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Huge Specialized stickers scream "poser"... i guess if you can find a clean way to remove them, then it wouldn't be too bad.
Oh, hai noob.
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If I were in your position, I'd buy these and some tubular tires for CX and throw some road tires on the current wheelset. That there is what I would do there. Yep.
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Agreed. AL stiffness will beat you up only on long rides over no-so-smooth roads.
Once again people...frame characteristics are not simply a function of material. A frame made out of steel, aluminum, ti, or carbon could be flexy or stiff. The geometry, tube diameters, and tube thicknesses are critical factors in how a frame rides. My steel bareknuckle is way stiffer than any aluminum frame I have ever owned. On the other hand, I have a old steel Centurion conversion that flops like a wet noodle. In a blind test, I'm willing to bet that none of you hipster thugs could tell what material your frame is made out of.


I would avoid the Langster if I could, mostly for aesthetic reasons. Specialized is a big corporate dinosaur that just doesn't get it...they tried to make the Langster (an already hideous bike) into some sort of trenddy hipster bike, but they completely missed the boat on this one. There are plenty of other similarly priced options that will not make those around you gag.

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Old 11-21-07, 03:36 PM   #22
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i was not a fan of the langster i rode. but i guess that means nothing if you have ridden one and liked it, so....they're ugly.
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Old 11-21-07, 03:58 PM   #23
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i still think the best argument is that they are hideous
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I ride a langster, have for like 2 years now. Here is a breakdown of someone who actually owns one:

1) They are ugly - repaint it and its a bit better (mine looks like a John Deere now, I got yellow bar wrap now, I am super hip and sorta match)



2) It is fun burning stupid hipsters on their fancy bikes with deep V's on my ugly, with my beater bike.

3)For the same price you can get an IRO and be super cool with steel.

4) Finally, its a beater bike, nothing fancy. It takes a good beating and rides fine.

Don't listen to people who don't own the bike and don't ride it everyday.
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Old 11-21-07, 05:29 PM   #25
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i still think the best argument is that they are hideous
my old langster



i prefer riding my conversion
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