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Old 12-08-07, 11:22 PM
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What is the lightest stock steel frame track bike /FG?

and how light can you make a steel framed fg bike?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by RFC
and how like can you make a steel framed fg bike?

Thanks

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Old 12-08-07, 11:31 PM
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Who knows about stock bikes? Maybe someone here knows off hand, but I doubt it. If you're really curious, a nominal amount of research should turn something up.

To your second question, are you really asking that? I mean, seriously?

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assuming you meant to ask how light you can make a steel frame track bike, i'll bite. i have no idea what the lightest tubing is that's used.

my guess would be something like a colnago dream would be one of the lightest.


EDIT: colnago master! my bad.

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I should spend less time here because these broad, open-ended questions are getting to me...
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do really want to know the lightest or the lightest reasonably affordable
?

oh and jet

like what should i do and stuff
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Originally Posted by wearyourtruth
my guess would be something like a colnago dream would be one of the lightest.
The Colnago Dream is AL, iirc.
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Originally Posted by crust & crumb
The Colnago Dream is AL, iirc.
Yep, Aerospace aluminum. The Master is steel.

The frame will depend on your goals and cash flow but if you really want to save weight, drop it off your ass.

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high end steel tubing is light but I think some of it is also really thin-walled.
Not always a good compromise perhaps. Could be wrong--don't have the money to
throw down for crazy expensive bikes--happy with Reynolds 6-3-1
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My small typo aside, I am surprised at the confusion caused by this question

The weight of bikes is a common subject in other forums, such as the road cycling, touring, and mountain bike forums.
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I really want a frame made out of unobtainium, but for some reason they are always just out of my reach.
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Size-tubing-purpose? Many variables. Lighter is not always better for track bikes.
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personally i want a heavy ass bike so that i have enough momentum to
flatten an SUV--hell getting up to speed but once you do--look out--
gonna make that escalade look like roadkill
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steel frame? you could probably get it down to 15 or 16 pounds with ridiculously expensive, lightweight everything for components, given the bike has light tubing too.

p.s. i could very well be wrong.

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Originally Posted by andre nickatina
steel frame? you could probably get it down to 15 or 16 pounds with ridiculously expensive, lightweight everything for components, given the bike has light tubing too.
A buddy of mine said he got his steel Colnago down to 15lbs or so, though I never saw it weighed. Those parts wouldnt exactly be cheap but it wouldnt be all too hard to source them.
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Originally Posted by KFC
The weight of bikes is a common subject in other forums, such as the road cycling, touring, and mountain bike forums.
I'll field this one.
The issue with your question is less its subject matter, and more its vague, open-endedness. You see, this forum, more than many, is populated by a fairly large number of "real people." That is -- people with finite budgets.
So, putting forth a vague, poorly-worded question is not a good way to get a good answer. Again, especially not here due to the "real people." Specifying things such as budget, intended use, etc. (as mentioned above) can help others help you.

I hope you found this somewhat helpful.
Yours in Scouting,
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Originally Posted by Tangsooyuk
Yep, Aerospace aluminum. The Master is steel.

The frame will depend on your goals and cash flow but if you really want to save weight, drop it off your ass.
Does aerospace mean it will work with aerospokes?

Now, seriously, the lightest would probably be Reynolds 953, or another stainless steel type. I have seen pictures of some 953 frames close to 1000g in kiddy sizes, but would still be really light for steel in larger sizes.

The IRO group buy frame was fairly light too.

And what if you have none left to lose off your ass?
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The IRO group buy frame was fairly light too.
???
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IRO SE. Didn't weigh all that much. Wasn't affected by gravity as much as other frames. Didn't possess the level of mass of other frames. Used a lower volume of steel in the construction. I don't know, it just wasn't heavy.
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Originally Posted by shogun17
IRO SE. Didn't weigh all that much. Wasn't affected by gravity as much as other frames. Didn't possess the level of mass of other frames. Used a lower volume of steel in the construction. I don't know, it just wasn't heavy.
I think he's expressing confusion, because many of us felt our IRO group buy frames were boat anchors.
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the fork is a boat anchor
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Originally Posted by andre nickatina
steel frame? you could probably get it down to 15 or 16 pounds with ridiculously expensive, lightweight everything for components, given the bike has light tubing too.

p.s. i could very well be wrong.
Try 12 pounds for a raceable steel framed folding road bike! - https://www.sandsmachine.com/a_rob_r5.htm

Make this a fixie and you're looking at sub-11 pounds.

It's all down to how much you want to spend.

(Oh, and there's a 2.9kg carbon framed fixie about to be finished in Poland https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...d.php?id=23360).
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Tange prestige is pretty lightweight steel tubing but can be flexy. As for Columbus, just RTFM and decide for yourself.
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it funny, over in the road forum a lot of folks have sub 15lb fully geared bikes, without anything crazy. you could easily build up a 12lb fixed gear.
forget steel, i predict this year the new hot trend for the cool kids will be carbon.
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i was thinking today about carbon track bikes and i cant bring myself to ever want one...
Light, yes... stiff, yes...
I dont like the feel of my carbon road bike.. and am replacing it with an aluminum cannondale.
I really like the feel of steel and wouldnt mind giving up a few pounds to race on steel in the future.

I want to build a 16lb or so fg to race a hillclimb with next year, I dont really want to spend too much money so Im not going to try to go for the 12-14lb that could be attainable on a larger budget.
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