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    what bike is this?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tab%3DWatching

    I bought this bike on impulse today, mainly due to the price. The pictures arent great and i cant tell much about it. I searched for info on it on the web and didnt find anything. The buyer told me he got it from Franks Cyclery in New york, maybe some of u ny guys have seen em around and know something. SO any info on the bike would be great.

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    Its a SE Draft. Crap. He shouldn't have called it a Fuji!! Don't pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters View Post
    Its a SE Draft. Crap. He shouldn't have called it a Fuji!! Don't pay.
    But it's very popular in NYC at the moment!

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    So is the frame pretty much crap? I was hoping it was something decent and i could switch out with a centurion le mans conversion i got laying around. And any like real info besides just "its crap", would also be appreciated. thanks for the name though.

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    it's not crap. it's nowhere close to great, but it'll get you from point a to point b just fine.
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    Hi-ten steel and one piece cranks are the major faults. ~$200 on clearance from performance.

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    what's your centurion le mans conversion made out of? look for a tubing sticker on the seat tube, and report back.

    the SE draft is made out of high-tensile steel. also known as gaspipes. clunky and heavy. rarely used to build bikes (well, since the bike boom of the 70s, anyway) for a good reason. cheap as you can get.

    it will get you from point a to point b fine, but your current conversion might be a better frame.
    the hipster myth.

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    u should make impulses buys like that =\

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    I got my money refunded. Im bummed, i was hoping it was a sick deal with a decent frame.Thanks for all the quick help though guys. anybody got a ~58cm frame there selling lol. thanks again.

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    What's wrong with your Centurion? Lots of Centurions frames are of a quality only approached today by custom builders, or bikes in the $800+ range.
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    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    Its not your fault he called it a "Fuji Track bike" and popular in NYC, etc. You should not have a problem getting the refund from paypal. He lied. Funny quote: "Most parts are stock and not flash but totally customable. " BULLSH!T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 530farm View Post
    I got my money refunded. Im bummed, i was hoping it was a sick deal with a decent frame.Thanks for all the quick help though guys. anybody got a ~58cm frame there selling lol. thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonechilling View Post
    What's wrong with your Centurion? Lots of Centurions frames are of a quality only approached today by custom builders, or bikes in the $800+ range.
    I'm really curious about how you came up with this conclusion.

    Centurions were mass-produced bikes in a range of price-points, just like any other manufacturer. Do what QP says, check your tubing sticker and report back. Also, check the serial number. Tange tubing changed over the years, and the year your bike was made will help determine what the frame is like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeroplane View Post
    I'm really curious about how you came up with this conclusion.

    Centurions were mass-produced bikes in a range of price-points, just like any other manufacturer. Do what QP says, check your tubing sticker and report back. Also, check the serial number. Tange tubing changed over the years, and the year your bike was made will help determine what the frame is like.
    i'd say it's not entirely inaccurate, but you're right about the range of price points. but the higher stuff was made of good steel, as you know (this page has some more info: http://sheldonbrown.com/centurion/index.html), and it's not a stretch to say what bonechilling said.
    the hipster myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeroplane View Post
    I'm really curious about how you came up with this conclusion.

    Centurions were mass-produced bikes in a range of price-points, just like any other manufacturer. Do what QP says, check your tubing sticker and report back. Also, check the serial number. Tange tubing changed over the years, and the year your bike was made will help determine what the frame is like.
    I said many, not all. I reached it because tons of Centurions were made with lugged, mid-range Tange tubing. Considering the going price for many lugged or non-lugged Tange frames today, the quality Centurion frames are relative values.
    Quote Originally Posted by doofo View Post
    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    Like most every other major bike maker, some Centurians are pretty uninspired.

    But, I would say that most of the ones I have seen are mid-level at least. I have always considered them in the 80's and 90's to be one of the better values out there.

    I think the OP has a fighting chance of having a Centurian conversion that is the equivalent of pretty solid new bike. I would guess much, much better than the Draft.

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    I just think you are exaggerating the quantity of these high-end bikes (and probably over-valuing lugs, there are TONS of lugged, crappy bikes out there). I picture them like Specialized MTBs today. Yeah, they make some really nice ones, but at least 50% of those sold are crap-tastic budget models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgedwa View Post
    I think the OP has a fighting chance of having a Centurian conversion that is the equivalent of pretty solid new bike. I would guess much, much better than the Draft.
    Very true, a chance of good is always better than a sure bet of crappy.
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    to the OP . u should ask these questions before you hit the buy button.

    glad you got your money back

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    aaronplane, you're just cranky cause your centurion was high-ten steel. justintalent has one that he bought from heidi. it's tange #1.
    the hipster myth.

    i practice vagabondery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queerpunk View Post
    aaronplane, you're just cranky cause your centurion was high-ten steel. justintalent has one that he bought from heidi. it's tange #1.
    You are so right. I know that they have made nice ones, but there are a ****-ton of crappy ones too.

    And tange #1 is basically the only consistently-good one they made. Tange #5 went from high-ten to double-butted 4130 over the years. I had a bad year.
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    I'm surprised the makers of the SE Draft haven't created a username and come on here to defend their bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters View Post
    I'm surprised the makers of the SE Draft haven't created a username and come on here to defend their bikes.
    They don't speak English.

    Realistically, they probably don't know and most likely wouldn't give a crap if they did. They're gonna sell whether or not someone talks badly about them on the internet.
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