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Old 12-30-07, 01:13 AM   #1
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Peugeot FG and Braze on's (pics)

I was given a nice older Peugeot frame to have as my first FG/SS project.

I want a clean looking frame so I wanted to remove all the cable guides and stops. What have you guys found to be the best way to remove them with minimal damage to the frame?

Also, this BB looks a bit odd, anyone have experience with these French bikes and updating the BB to something more modern?











I plan on having the frame blasted and powder coated so I am open to grinding and filing the stops off, just want to get some feedback on what has worked for other.

TY in advance.
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Old 12-30-07, 01:23 AM   #2
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Honestly for what it would cost do do the strip and coat and then tracking down all the weird french **** you are going to need, you may be better of just finding a different frame
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you're going to have a very hard time finding replacements for the frame. It's not worth it to put that $ into that frame. Maybe use it as a beater and get a frame that is easier to find parts for (ex: something with an english BB)
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I have a local guy that media blasts frames for 25.00. I have my own powder coating system at my plant so that is free.

What other "french" crap do you refer to?
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BB, stem, seatpost. they seem to be exclusive stuff you can't find easily because of the different sizes they used. I have the same frame that I turned to a winter beater but it was in new condition with all I needed
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On Peugeots all the components are "french " so if you were to replace anything it has to be french, which tends to make things a little difficult. Now dont get me wrong, I have had a Peugeot conversion and I loved it, it was just a pain to get a new BB and stem and whatnot
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that frame looks to be of the later 80's models
in which case it's probably going to have swiss threaded bb cups.
stem and seatpost are both french diameter though so good luck there.
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it probably has a helicomatic freewheel which is the most questionable part and one you'd be getting rid of anyway if going fixed. my girlfriend has an early 80's pigsquat in nice original condition; granted it's a little nice model with downtube shifters, but it's her favorite bike...even likes it better than her steel lemond especially likes the handling. yellow jersey in madison, wi might be able to help you with parts or at least advice. i'd make it fixed and ride it for awhile if it were me before cutting and grinding and sanding and painting and all that work. have fun.
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Damned heliomatic!
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I have a local guy that media blasts frames for 25.00. I have my own powder coating system at my plant so that is free.
Regardless, when youre done with it, all youll have is a meh Pug with a nice coating on it.
I say sell it on craigslist to some silly kid and buy something worth your time, $ and effort.
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it probably has a helicomatic freewheel which is the most questionable part
They don't have any wheels on that frame.
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On Peugeots all the components are "french " so if you were to replace anything it has to be french.
Wrong.

Many of the Peugeots, even those built in France, used standard (British) components. It is somewhat dependent on the model, year and point of origin.

My mid 80's Ventoux, built in France, had both British threading for the bottom bracket and a typical 1" stem.

The checked pattern of the top tube decal indicates it might be from a time period of 79-83, which unfortunately indicates a period when Peugeot was using French, Swiss and British threading.

This might give you some help http://cyclespeugeot.com/index.html
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Thanks Dobber, that's good info to have.
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+1 on starting with something nicer. If you want a clean look for not a lot of $ you should just start with a bikesdirect bike and upgrade parts as they break; or get a frameset and build it up.
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I was given a nice older Peugeot frame to have as my first FG/SS project.

I want a clean looking frame so I wanted to remove all the cable guides and stops. What have you guys found to be the best way to remove them with minimal damage to the frame?

Also, this BB looks a bit odd, anyone have experience with these French bikes and updating the BB to something more modern?







I plan on having the frame blasted and powder coated so I am open to grinding and filing the stops off, just want to get some feedback on what has worked for other.

TY in advance.
I usually knock the braze ons off with chisel and hammer if I can do that without hurting anything first. After that I just sand them down smooth. I used a dremel the first time I ever refinished a bike and that was a bad idea because it takes too much metal off too quick.
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That's Hi-Ten gaspipe steel, so I say take the braze-ons off with an axe.
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It's not that bad. I love the way those old Peugeot's ride. At least it's a square taper bottom bracket, that puts you ahead of the game right there so long as it's in OK shape. I would carefully use a dremel or angle grinder on those brazeons.
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I work on a similar project last summer, it was a lot of work but it was worth it in the end. I lacked knowledge in bicycle maintence and buliding so I learnd a ton in the process and came out with a better looking and riding bike. I went the dremal route for grinding all the brazeons and shifter mounts off, then paint thiner and a lot of sanding. Right around $135 for the build plus the cost of sandpaper and paint. Heres a before and after shot


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Dont know how different the frames are but I love the ride of mine hope this was helpful
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I want "before" back

please?
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I actually think jaylaser's dremeljob turned out pretty nice for what it is..
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I want "before" back

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I would at least have rocked the og paintjob.

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+1
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I would at least have rocked the og paintjob.
Damn straight, I love me some late 80s Peugeot paint jobs. The bike in the OP is a little "blah" so it's not a big deal, but that one was cool.

This is the "before" of my wife's bike:

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Well I didnt mean to jack the Op's thread with a debate over whether or not I should have painted over the original Peugeot. I rode it for a long while and got bored so decided to paint it, felt kinda bad about it but it was in the dumpster when I found it, so at least its still alive and riding in some form..
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Well I didnt mean to jack the Op's thread with a debate over whether or not I should have painted over the original Peugeot. I rode it for a long while and got bored so decided to paint it, felt kinda bad about it but it was in the dumpster when I found it, so at least its still alive and riding in some form..
True. But it's a bit like taking the graphix off a Pontiac Firebird.

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