Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-30-07, 07:04 PM   #1
raster
Heck yes.
Thread Starter
 
raster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phila-ila-delphia
Bikes: Saint Tropez, Shogun
Posts: 426
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Fixed Trail Riding?

Does anyone around here ride trails fixed? I know that it happens, but I've never spoken to anyone who does it. I ask because I'm thinking of building up a fixed or single-speed cross bike to use some trails around my area, but I've got no clue about gearing or suitable components. Well, pretty much I've got no clue about off-road fixed, so any sort of comments would be helpful.
raster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 07:14 PM   #2
Zombie Carl
Are we not men?
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Amsterdam for now
Bikes:
Posts: 1,275
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm scared I'd be on a rutted trail and pedal strike would kill me.
Zombie Carl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 07:19 PM   #3
Dumpsterlife
is probably wrong
 
Dumpsterlife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: c-wood
Bikes: Fuji Roubaix RC, Bianchi San Jose
Posts: 499
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have just gotten in to it on my San Jose. There aren't much as far as climbs so I run 42x16. It's my commuter as well but if it was strictly a trail bike I would go smaller. It's a lot of fun. Sometimes you get ahead of yourself as far as crank position when you come up to any kind of obstacle such as a woodbridge with a little bit of a rise in it, or a stump or something. It's a lot of fun once you get used to it. I'm a novice on the trails and I've only ate it a few time due to my own dumb mistakes like trying to ride down stairs clipped in.
Dumpsterlife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 08:34 PM   #4
raster
Heck yes.
Thread Starter
 
raster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phila-ila-delphia
Bikes: Saint Tropez, Shogun
Posts: 426
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Sound excellent! How do you like the San Jose in that application? That's one of the frames I was looking at.
raster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 08:34 PM   #5
MIN 
big ring
 
MIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: philadelphia
Bikes:
Posts: 5,838
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I do it on my Pista with 25c tires on 60 pounds.
MIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 08:50 PM   #6
Devolution
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pittsburgh!
Bikes: Track bike, road fixed, cross fixed, two single speed mountain.
Posts: 311
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've raced my mountain bike fixed on a couple occasions, one of which was a 24hr race with other forum poster riderx. It can be done, is hard but not nearly as hard as people make it out to be, and is great fun.
Devolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 08:52 PM   #7
MIN 
big ring
 
MIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: philadelphia
Bikes:
Posts: 5,838
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Devolution View Post
I've raced my mountain bike fixed on a couple occasions, one of which was a 24hr race with other forum poster riderx. It can be done, is hard but not nearly as hard as people make it out to be, and is great fun.
It's not hard at all. If you can skid fixed, then you should have enough bike competency to ride light trails fixed as well.
MIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 08:55 PM   #8
raster
Heck yes.
Thread Starter
 
raster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phila-ila-delphia
Bikes: Saint Tropez, Shogun
Posts: 426
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIN View Post
I do it on my Pista with 25c tires on 60 pounds.
By 25c, do you mean 700c x 25?
raster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 08:57 PM   #9
MIN 
big ring
 
MIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: philadelphia
Bikes:
Posts: 5,838
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Correct. Mind you, it's just light singletracks, nothing gnarly. I'd run bigger on my bike but I have a cross bike for that kind of stuff.
MIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 09:03 PM   #10
raster
Heck yes.
Thread Starter
 
raster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phila-ila-delphia
Bikes: Saint Tropez, Shogun
Posts: 426
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If I my ask, what sorta tire are you running on there? At that width, I could just through some knobby tires on my road bike and be done with it.
raster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 09:04 PM   #11
mander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Van BC
Bikes:
Posts: 3,744
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have climbed and bombed the easier trails up Burnaby Mountain (300 m vertical gain) on my 700*25, 69" geared roadfix. It's a very sub optimal setup and that's what makes it totally fun. on the way up there are lots of runups, and the way down is a steep sketchfest compounded by my lack of a rear brake. the only other cyclists around up there are camelbak wearing mtbers and they always get a kick out of seeing a ss bonafide road bike on the trail. To do it righter than i did you'd want a gear in the low 60s or lower, plus a rear brake.
mander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 09:09 PM   #12
MIN 
big ring
 
MIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: philadelphia
Bikes:
Posts: 5,838
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by raster View Post
If I my ask, what sorta tire are you running on there? At that width, I could just through some knobby tires on my road bike and be done with it.
Most road bikes won't accomodate anything >28c. 28c barely fits on my Pista. The tires are cheapo Vittoria Zaffiros.
MIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 09:30 PM   #13
StabsAll
Thirsty
 
StabsAll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Yay Area! SatanRosa, CA
Bikes: One bike one gear fixed.
Posts: 189
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Devolution View Post
I've raced my mountain bike fixed on a couple occasions, one of which was a 24hr race with other forum poster riderx. It can be done, is hard but not nearly as hard as people make it out to be, and is great fun.
24hr races are gnarly. I did one on my ss mtb when I was racing, it was tight. I also rode light, easy single track trails on my first fixed conversion. I had it set up with knobby cyclocross tires. I ended up breaking that frame though at the bb shell.
I'd rather mash trails on a ss thatn fixed but it's still hellsa fun fixed and for sure do-able if you know how to ride your bike.
StabsAll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 09:37 PM   #14
fixedup
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i've turned my old beater into a fixed cyclocross. I have a 42c up front and a 38c in the back, im currently running 48x17 and it thrashed me today on the trails, I have a 20t but haven't gotten a chain yet to put it on. Also running no brakes at the moment, HELLA FUN!
fixedup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 09:39 PM   #15
el twe
crotchety young dude
 
el twe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SF, CA
Bikes: IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
Posts: 4,818
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've got my IRO Angus set up with knobby tires and a 49x20 for some off-road action. Fun as hell, go for it!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiacKid View Post
I explained that he could never pay me enough cash for the amount of work I had put into that bike and the only way to compensate me for it was to ride the hell out of it.
IRO Angus Casati Gold Line
el twe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 10:33 PM   #16
Suttree
some new kind of kick
 
Suttree's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Smog Valley
Bikes: SOMA Rush, Miyata 912, Kogswell Mod. G, want a porteur bike
Posts: 1,541
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by raster View Post
Does anyone around here ride trails fixed? I know that it happens, but I've never spoken to anyone who does it. I ask because I'm thinking of building up a fixed or single-speed cross bike to use some trails around my area, but I've got no clue about gearing or suitable components. Well, pretty much I've got no clue about off-road fixed, so any sort of comments would be helpful.
http://www.63xc.com/

strap on your brain bucket.
Suttree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-07, 10:57 PM   #17
wearyourtruth
Ride for Life
 
wearyourtruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Baltimore
Bikes:
Posts: 2,729
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i tried riding my mtb fixed once on singletrack, and it's fine until you get to a log or large rock and have to worry about pedal strike. however on the trail i was on that was enough to keep me from doing it again! plus a good ration for hilly single track is 2x1 which means you can't get much speed on the decent.

riding fixed on the trails has brought up a pretty serious problem, the tendency is to end up skidding on many of the decents, but skidding is one of the worst things you can do for a trail, so be careful
wearyourtruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 01:02 AM   #18
stachemaster
rawthentic menergy
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes: 2005 johnny coast cycles #4 track, 1971 peugeot px-10 road, gt performer 1986 PINK bmx, 1966 raleigh rodeo 3-speed STICK SHIFT 20", 1960s rollfast tandem, 1970s raleigh fixed
Posts: 183
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
was about to add the same thing as wearyourtruths comment. there was a lengthy discussion about trail maintenance and skidding down them on here earlier, search for it. i dont ride mtb trails, but from what i understand, skidding destroys them sooner.
stachemaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 01:29 AM   #19
roderage
poetic license suspended
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Al B. Qwerky
Bikes: raleigh c30...fixed, thrift store schwine...fixed, haro dart...almost fixed
Posts: 173
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i'm waiting on the tires and 19 tooth cog to convert my ex-hybrid, now fixie, soon to be mountain bike. i'll run 41x19 on 2.1" 29ers.
roderage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 02:16 AM   #20
raster
Heck yes.
Thread Starter
 
raster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phila-ila-delphia
Bikes: Saint Tropez, Shogun
Posts: 426
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiju-velo View Post
http://www.63xc.com/

strap on your brain bucket.
That is one excellent site. Thank you.
raster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 10:15 AM   #21
teamdicky
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 51
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Great way to do the fix thing off road here:
Disc Fix Cog


teamdicky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 10:50 AM   #22
dirtyphotons
antisocialite
 
dirtyphotons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 3,385
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
it's fun and not terribly hard, although logs will take some practice.

p.s. please try not to skid on trails, it causes erosion and there's already enough tension between mountain bikers and other trail users.
dirtyphotons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 11:16 AM   #23
ianjk
:)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: duluth
Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450
Posts: 3,392
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I ride my beater on trails quite a bit (42x17), even taken the track bike on some singletrack (have a problem of seeing new trails and taking them no matter what I am riding)... the only problem I've encountered is too high of gearing for some small stretches.
ianjk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 11:40 AM   #24
StephenH
Uber Goober
 
StephenH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Dallas area, Texas
Bikes:
Posts: 11,284
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
We lived in Colorado for several years. The "Mountain Bike Trails" up there tend to be associated with mountains, with long uphill climbs. For something like that, the more gearing you have, the better.

But now we're down here in Texas. Most of the "Mountain Bike Trails" are 98% flat level, with occasional dips and rises on them. Just about anything that didn't fall apart while bouncing over roots would work here. You could even walk a bike past the occasional dip and rise or log, for that matter, with minimal loss of time.
StephenH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-07, 02:58 PM   #25
el twe
crotchety young dude
 
el twe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SF, CA
Bikes: IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
Posts: 4,818
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtyphotons View Post
p.s. please try not to skid on trails, it causes erosion and there's already enough tension between mountain bikers and other trail users.
WORD. Put a brake (or two if you can cut it) on.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiacKid View Post
I explained that he could never pay me enough cash for the amount of work I had put into that bike and the only way to compensate me for it was to ride the hell out of it.
IRO Angus Casati Gold Line
el twe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:45 AM.